MOFI - Cellar Excavation

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:56 pm

I can free all boomers and get some over the water too.
I can walk up the pow power
and release the turtles in a good way to the water
but not in the best way
cos I can't reach the middle with the 3 bridges and the kegs.
I can brr 1 piece north of the top bridge but I'm still 1 piece too short to get on the bridges (or 1 turtle too short)
Or I need another order to direct the turtles into the water

How will help me?

popo · Post by **popo** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:21 pm

I completed this one yesterday. I was having the same trouble as you, always one turtle short. I had tried to find a place to stand that I could brr an ice tile so I wouldn't need another turtle, but couldn't find one. In the end I had to totally rethink my strategy, and do some preserving before I even started on the turtle area.

You do have enough turtles if you make them start in the right place, and you need to make sure you can get back round to recharge your pow glove afterwards, because you'll need it, you'll use all your pows getting the turtles to go the right way, and you'll need to be a barrier yourself too.

Hint...

You only need one boomer across the water.

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:54 pm

I'm still no tile further with your reply.
I came with a new approach on blowing up the kegs.
But I can't recharge!
I don't know how the turtles have to walk to get me to the bridge

popo · Post by **popo** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:07 pm

I'll do you a screen shot of the turtles tomorrow, but for now here's a hint or two.

massive spoiler wrote:When you put the boomer over the water and go over yourself, brr yourself 2 tiles side by side (2 separate tiles so you can go over and back) you'll need these later. After your boomer blows up the barrels for you leave him there. Go across one bridge tile and brr yourself a bridge so you can get over later. Then get your Pow glove and blow up the barrels. Recharge.
After you've done the turtles, which I'll show you tomorrow, you can let the other boomers in through the door. Then you need to place them strategically so as to get barrels at both sides with each boomer. You will need to walk round over the bridges you placed earlier to recharge your Pow so you can blow up the remaining barrels.

Guinevere · Post by **Guinevere** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:54 pm

Urghle. I can see where the turtles are meant to go, and can get them going over the right way, but not down at the right point. Aaaargh! And now it's going to have to wait until after work tomorrow .... Gah!

popo · Post by **popo** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:02 am

Screenshots for barrel area and turtle direction.

http://i73.servimg.com/u/f73/12/03/17/14/image110.jpg
http://i73.servimg.com/u/f73/12/03/17/14/image210.jpg

Blow up barrels with red X'x

http://i73.servimg.com/u/f73/12/03/17/14/image410.jpg

Stand where shown. When all turtles have gone across, stand on button to raise bridges for last two turtles and back down to position to direct them. You'll have to do this twice.

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:45 am

first picture: you stand on wrong spot when door is open, cos then turtles go another way and it's wrong or you walked to island
better stand at the right side of the barrel you're now facing

but still something is wrong in second picture
cos turtles don't go over the button
they return from island to mainland
think you need that cross on the multi-keg on another keg on that island

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:51 am

my first tought,reply were wrong

the position in the last picture is where I need to be too when turtles come
and (tricky) release those last 2.

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:11 am

Popo, I could kiss you for this fast solution! Marvellous!!

popo · Post by **popo** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:29 am

I'm glad you made it Erwin.

Where I'm standing in the first picture has nothing to do with blowing up the barrels, it's just where I was when I took the screenshot. It's the third picture where I was showing you where to stand. But you got there in the end.

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:25 pm

Pauline, dear, I must be a total dork

Would you be so kind?

popo wrote:When you put the boomer over the water and go over yourself, brr yourself 2 tiles side by side When I hit the mainland after getting the coins, I've only got 5 brr's left, and I need 4 just to get me and my boomer across the water. What am I not seeing???Go across one bridge tile and brr yourself a bridge so you can get over later. Then get your Pow glove and blow up the barrels. Recharge. HOW??? I can't get back to the POW

benemily · Post by **benemily** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:29 pm

I used a completely different method, didn't have to recharge my POW's, just took a friend to help me direct the turtles

Guinevere · Post by **Guinevere** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:40 pm

Oh, popo, thank you! I was so close, just didn't get the barrels by the turtle enclosure quite right!

98 stars and counting ... unfortunately it's now back to the Lost Ice Fortress for me.

Erwin042 · Post by **Erwin042** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 pm

Salin,

from the coins, I used 3 brrs for getting back on boomer-land (diagonal)
then there are 2 spots where you can brr only 1 piece and go diagonal to go across
So when you need 2 tiles to get back, it will be those 2
When the turtles are in the right position, you open the door and are back at the start so you need recharging. After recharge you only need to go back to the bridges. So 2 tiles to get back
And 1 brr just before th pow gloves!

I think that's your answer!

popo · Post by **popo** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:01 am

Thanks Erwin for explaining that.

Yes Inger, think diagonal. Don't you keep telling me that?

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:50 am

Yes I do, and I did!!! I can't see where it's only needed one brr from the mainlad

It's so annoying

Gonna go and try again now

Thanks anyway

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:10 pm

Finally made it! 99 stars without any cheating, unless you count screenshots and other help as that

Thank you so much for your help, Pauline

dylan1298 · Post by **dylan1298** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:15 am

I'm a little confused. My boomer has to blow up the barrel in front of him, while I go off to collect coins and brr. The yellow gates go up when you step on the yellow buttons, so he can't follow me. I know how to get back, but what I'm confused about, is if he blows that one barrel, how to blow barrels near orange pow?

popo · Post by **popo** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:13 am

One boomer blows up the first barrel, then take another boomer through and have him wait for you by the water. When you've brr'd across you take him down to blow the first barrels up. The last 4 you can have wait by the door until you get round.

dylan1298 · Post by **dylan1298** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:29 pm

They all froze when I stepped in to that room with them all. Did I not wait long enough, do they all bust or something?

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:44 pm

Not all of them

popo · Post by **popo** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:52 pm

Ah, I see you're trying to use that boomer to blow up the first barrel. He has another job to do first. You will need all the boomers so think how useful that one can be.

dylan1298 · Post by **dylan1298** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:53 pm

I used

the kaboom that did not freeze to unfreeze them all

Is that correct?

popo · Post by **popo** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:54 pm

Yep!

dylan1298 · Post by **dylan1298** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:20 pm

That's great cause it worked.

Loirae · Post by **Loirae** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:10 pm

popo regarding boomer placement wrote:...you can let the other boomers in through the door. Then you need to place them strategically so as to get barrels at both sides with each boomer.

Um, the part I underlined ... no.

After the turtles were in place, you only need one boomer to help you get the gems. In the end, of the 7 boomers I had, only 4 of them lost their cool. The other three were cool as cucumbers and stayed lit the whole time.

Silly popo, trying to make it so hard!

iancull · Post by **iancull** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:58 am

How do I open the pale blue gate? Or is it a red herring?!

Never mind ...

lizwiz · Post by **lizwiz** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:05 pm

This is driving me crazy!

If I get a second boomer across the ice and up into the turtle area, I can use it to block the turtles as they come out so that I can get into the right place on the island to send them down.

Only problem is I can't get back to the POW because I haven't got enough Brrs.

If I don't get the boomer across I wouldn't need to get back to the POW, but I can't control the turtles as they come out and on the island.
What am I missing? Or is it that I just 'aint fast enough?

Pauline I can't see your first picture - not sure why!

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:14 am

OMG Popo, the boomers, the turtles... I got through this level, but I was making it so difficult.

With a few less Pows, and without blowing up any on the island with the blue button, you can, with the help of one Brr (I never thought that tricky Brr placement was intentional), use all those turtles to form the bridge back to the mainland. With the remaining Pows, I unfroze as many boomers as I could (oh how could I have missed that simple solution?!), and used them to blow up the barrels.

One of my original ideas was to do use your method to be able to recharge my Pow, but with that extra Brr needed, that become impossible.

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:33 am

Darshan,

you don't need POW to unfreeze boomers. One of them is not frozen, and can be used to unfreeze them all.