Making complex adventures

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:03 pm

Who see this topic maybe will laugh, but I have a big problem with making adventures. I want to make adventures for my hub but I don't know how to make them a little complex. Someone could help me to learn how to make complex adventures?PLEASE! :cry:

Blazeknight · Post by **Blazeknight** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:20 am

There are a lot of things which you can combine to make complex adventures... I'll give you some hints and examples:

1. 9 Blink spells with flipbridges and buttons to reach a star
2. Floing-Pop mechanisms with automated systems
3. Stinker Race with fast-reflex magic spells
4. Something like mystery malfunction of MOFI

If you are a new designer, these ideas may sound scary or tough but you can make the best of adventures only by experimenting with the WA3E yourself...
For reference and practice, you can play custom hubs to give you more ideas. Feel free to ask me or anyone for help anytime

Yzfm · Post by **Yzfm** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:23 am

When I try to make my adventures complex (and mostly fail, but whatever) I like hiding a puzzle's solution within another puzzle, as in, you get nine brr charges in one section, and you have to save one to use in the following section. I also like to use floing's spellball stopping power, it can make very decieving puzzles.

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:35 am

Thank you guys

Wonderman109 · Post by **Wonderman109** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:55 pm

A good puzzle-making technique MNIK taught everyone from his 'smotherpuzzle' style was to work backwards.

Make a room with an exit gate and a button for instance, and add walls. Then put obstacles blocking each that require more items to be opened, and block those too until the room is filled up or almost filled up.

My personal design is to slap a bunch of puzzle ideas in a room and move them around until they both logically and physically fit together. Sort of like how Yzfm does it.

Jutomi · Post by **Jutomi** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:46 pm

The way I make puzzles is throw a bunch of mesh together, then throw more together,
then test if they work.

Many times, I end up with a beautiful mesh of meshes.

I wish you luck in adventure making.

Wonderland King · Post by **Wonderland King** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:37 pm

My trick is the opposite of MNIK's, to work forward. For instance, maybe I'll decide that the first step for the player will be to open the orange gate. So I'll put an orange button and gate... and so on. It's a pretty basic style, but it's the only thing that works for me.

Blazeknight · Post by **Blazeknight** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:43 am

You can also make adventures where the player keeps coming to a centre-like place for every little puzzle section he solves and keeps using subsequent sections to progress again and again

Wonderman109 · Post by **Wonderman109** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:59 pm

Similar to what Blaze just wrote, you can have sections you solve and then repeat. (e.g. a button/key and gate puzzle, and then you press a ToggleOnce or round button and do the puzzle again with different gates.)

Some people do this with series, where in #1 you solve an area with an easy puzzle then come back in #5 or #10 or whatever and do a harder one in the same place with a similar design.

Blazeknight · Post by **Blazeknight** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:09 am

Something like MOFIs volcanic system... Spiky balls inside invisible walls to use buttons and you wait for platforms to work

Pawelec · Post by **Pawelec** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:28 am

I usually stick to very few elements (eg. Transporters and Rotators), place some of them randomly, then I place the Star and choose starting spot, plan a path and finally I start complicating the path. I also make more than one solution possible, with the hardest one being the Gold solution.

OondiLalaLoopy · Post by **OondiLalaLoopy** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:29 pm

Thanks for helping me.

Wonderman109 · Post by **Wonderman109** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:33 pm

I just made a big puzzle simply starting with some random objects I see scrolling through the Object categories and expanding on them so they all get used.

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:24 pm

I make a story and then uh maybe use puzzles as filler.