Wonderland animation(s)

Micman27 · Post by **Micman27** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:51 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:
MyNameIsKooky wrote:
eee226 wrote:I'm gonna use the thing they used to animate before, PENCIL AND PAPER
Good luck with that...
Every frame must look close enough in order for them to look like a film...

Even for computer-generated 3D animation, that is still difficult, since you still need to adjust all joints manually, frame-by-frame.

So yeah, good luck with that, not to mention the scanning, colouring and audio-syncing...

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:54 pm

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:54 pm

If you use the pivot frame rate, it's about 1000 frames/minute. If you use that rate you will need to draw 60,000 pictures just for one hour. You're probaly better off with a animating program.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:15 am

Micman27 wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:
MyNameIsKooky wrote:
eee226 wrote:I'm gonna use the thing they used to animate before, PENCIL AND PAPER
Good luck with that...
Every frame must look close enough in order for them to look like a film...

Even for computer-generated 3D animation, that is still difficult, since you still need to adjust all joints manually, frame-by-frame.

So yeah, good luck with that, not to mention the scanning, colouring and audio-syncing...

And the point of your post is....?

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 am

That eee only mentioned the scaning part. He forgot to mention how he's gonna do the other 2.

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:07 pm

1 frame done, unknown frams to go.

yot yot5 · Post by **yot yot5** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:19 pm

1 FRAME DONE??? EPIC!!!

35999 to go (if you have ten frames a second and one hour of footage)...

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:59 pm

eee226 wrote:1 frame done, unknown frams to go.

lol

I think you'd be better off making a picture book.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:59 pm

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:14 am

yot yot5 wrote:1 FRAME DONE??? EPIC!!!

35999 to go (if you have ten frames a second and one hour of footage)...

Normal animations have 25 to 30 frames per second to ensure the pictures are "moving".

I think he should consider using softwares to help him. There is no way for him to hand-draw everything and get it done before his 80th birthday.

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:22 am

Plus, wouldn't he need the voices first so he knows how long to make each talking animation?

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:27 am

boywhoflies wrote:Plus, wouldn't he need the voices first so he knows how long to make each talking animation?

No. A few old cartoons could've used less than 10 frames for a minute's worth of talking by reusing the frames.

But eee won't reach the editing stage in 9001 years, so we don't have to think about that yet.

LexieTheFox · Post by **LexieTheFox** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:40 am

MyNameIsKooky wrote:
boywhoflies wrote:Plus, wouldn't he need the voices first so he knows how long to make each talking animation?
No. A few old cartoons could've used less than 10 frames for a minute's worth of talking by reusing the frames.

But eee won't reach the editing stage in 9001 years, so we don't have to think about that yet.

-Insert ITS OVER 9000 Joke here-

You guys shouldn't add Hyperboles to everything, although it could take 2-4 months at the rate Eees going in real time.

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:24 am

LexieTheFox wrote:
MyNameIsKooky wrote:
boywhoflies wrote:Plus, wouldn't he need the voices first so he knows how long to make each talking animation?
No. A few old cartoons could've used less than 10 frames for a minute's worth of talking by reusing the frames.

But eee won't reach the editing stage in 9001 years, so we don't have to think about that yet.
-Insert ITS OVER 9000 Joke here-

You guys shouldn't add Hyperboles to everything, although it could take 2-4 months at the rate Eees going in real time.

First announced that the pen-paper animating style will be used:
Nov. 8

Announced that 1 frame is done:
Nov. 11

Rate:
1 frame/3 days

I month:
About 30 days

(About)Rate:
10 frames/month

Using the frame rate Tyteen mentioned(at max because it's eazier to calculate):
30 frames/second
So:
1 second/month

At this rate, in 4 months he will only be 4 seconds in, not the 80 minutes planned.

Edit:
Adding on to that:
minute=60 seconds=60 months of develoment=5 years

Now, that 80 minutes are planned:
80 minutesx5 years=400 years=4 centuries to finish at this rate.

As App once said:
...
Wow.

Edit 2:I'm sorry, this is just halarious. 400 years to finish at this rate...somebody hurry up and get this dude imortal.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:56 am

LexieTheFox wrote:it could take 2-4 months at the rate Eees going in real time.

laughable

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:31 pm

2 frames done unknown more to go

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:40 pm

Now the avrage rate is 1 frame/2 days.
Um...

30 frames/second
1800 frames/minute
108000 frames/hour
144000 frames/whole movie
288000 days/whole movie
Using the 30 days/month thing again:
9600 months/whole movie
800 years/whole movie

I must've screwed up somewhere, because that should be less. Due to laziness I'm not trying again.

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:42 pm

Ok working on the other frame

yot yot5 · Post by **yot yot5** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:44 pm

Just keep going, if you work at it your whole life you might release it as a dying gift...

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:25 pm

...Or maybe your grandchildren will finish it.

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:41 pm

Well I will work on each frame each day

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:43 pm

So you will be done in 143998 days. I think.

yot yot5 · Post by **yot yot5** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:54 pm

143998/365=394 and a little bit.

So if all your family live for 100 years your great-grandchildren should finish it at the age of 94.

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:02 pm

Are you making the frames the right way, or are you just individually draw each one?

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:48 pm

He's doing each one seprately.

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:51 pm

I might need a bigger drawing book

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:52 pm

You know, There's a better way to make the frames.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:53 pm

eee226 wrote:I might need a bigger drawing book

Ya think? o.o

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:23 am

eee226 wrote:I might need a bigger drawing book

You'll need about 144000 peices of paper to make a 80 minute long animation...

LittleZbot · Post by **LittleZbot** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:36 am

Nobody wrote:Since LittleZbot is kinda gone, I might make the script for his subplots. I still think that they overcomplicate the movie, but whatever.

Well, guess what? I'M BACK.