WA3 Update Thread

ab-47 · Post by **ab-47** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:58 pm

Emerald141 wrote:It's okay, no harm done.

I hope so...

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:18 pm

ab-47 wrote:He must have His own level makers.

No, he does not. He takes people from the community based on level submissions. That's what he did with MOFI, at least.

From http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15956 :

Midnight Synergy wrote:Hi all,

just a quick reminder that if you wanted to be involved in WA2, you need to send me an example level in the next little while (by end of April would be great, although you could still join a little later, if necessary).

I'll be going through the submissions so far in a bit, so expect e-mails in a week (?) or so.

And in case you don't know what I'm talking about:
http://www.midnightsynergy.com/newslett ... /page6.htm

Best,
Patrick

A while back, Midnight Synergy mentioned that there would be much more community involvement with Wonderland Adventures 3.

ab-47 wrote:otherwise if MS took the five of you, I'll call that (by all the respect) CHEAP.

How so?

ab-47 wrote:see the credits again. the level makers are users here who WORK as level makers. What I mean is that the level makers who made MOFI works for MS.

They do not "work" for Midnight Synergy. Patrick himself said he was the one-man band behind Midnight Synergy. The designers for MOFI were hand-picked from users on the forum based on level submissions. See what I said above.

eee226 · Post by **eee226** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:09 pm

I wonder if Pootsy is in the game

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:17 pm

Changing topic, but I looked through the topic Kooky's last post...

Midnight Synergy wrote:I'm sure we'll get back to the creep[Creepy Keep]. I have an idea of how it could fit into the planned Episode 3 storyline, but I'm not sure I'm going to go with that.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:22 pm

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:25 pm

Master Wonder Mage wrote:Changing topic, but I looked through the topic Kooky's last post...

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:28 pm

Technos72 · Post by **Technos72** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:34 pm

You're not the only one failing at the same time

I've done many mistakes recently

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:35 pm

On the other hand, I'm winning a lot.

Technos72 · Post by **Technos72** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:39 pm

MyNameIsKooky wrote:On the other hand, I'm winning a lot.

So that means you're Charlie Sheen *shot*

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:37 pm

ab-47 wasn't saying anything about forum members not being level designers. He just said that if we were level designers we would have to get paid, even if we didn't want to. Admittedly the way he put it was a little confusingly, but...

Kooky Fails: 1

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:51 pm

Nobody wrote:ab-47 wasn't saying anything about forum members not being level designers.

He said that the forum members working on MOFI were actual workers for Midnight Synergy.

Nobody wrote:He just said that if we were level designers we would have to get paid, even if we didn't want to.

He never said anything about getting paid.

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:21 pm

Nobody wrote:ab-47 wasn't saying anything about forum members not being level designers.

ab-47 wrote:emerald... MS won't take forum users who make custom levels. He must have His own level makers.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:58 am

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:15 am

I don't think MS needs to pay us. To get to play the new game early (for free) and have your name in the credits. I'm surprised we're not paying MS.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:00 pm

ab-47 · Post by **ab-47** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:05 pm

(deleted for causing problems and acting more stupididly)

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:09 pm

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:17 pm

ab-47 wrote:ok. consider it you guys got the job.
will you guys have the same skill that the level makers of MOFI had.
don't tell me that still you guys are called "the awesome Pentagon"
The MOFI maker has more skill and puzzles. what makes the 5 of you get the same skill that they got.
also. MNIK's hub (lattius road) has good puzzles. but were they as good as MOFI puzzles.

Master wonder Mage is making a hub too, will it have good puzzles
like MOFI.
Almost forgot... your levels in the custom adventures are Action (needs some moving) and hardly a puzzle (thinking).............I think I over reacted a-bit hope this won't hurt anyone's feelings.

Keep in mind that custom adventures aren't exactly in the same genre as official adventures. Custom adventures are often much larger, have a storyline, and focus more around action with a couple of puzzles. Most official levels are 1 or occasionally 2 .wlv's and the story generally takes place in the hub. However, I assure you any one of the Awesome Pentagon could make some amazing puzzles if that was what was wanted.

ab-47 · Post by **ab-47** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:17 pm

Emerald141 wrote:
ab-47 wrote:hope this won't hurt anyone's feelings.
Too late.

ab-47 wrote:).............I think I over reacted a-bit

hmmm.........more like....

ab-47 wrote:ooops.... shouldn't have wrote all that!

If you guys Are getting annoyed. then I'm leaving the topic.

ab-47 · Post by **ab-47** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:19 pm

Master Wonder Mage wrote:I assure you any one of the Awesome Pentagon could make some amazing puzzles if that was what was wanted.

perhaps.

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:24 pm

(I wish Patrick would pop in and end this discussion with a straight out statement.)

ab-47 · Post by **ab-47** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:25 pm

Master Wonder Mage wrote:(I wish Patrick would pop in and end this discussion with a straight out statement.)

first annoyed user. *leaves*

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:28 pm

ab-47 wrote:
Master Wonder Mage wrote:(I wish Patrick would pop in and end this discussion with a straight out statement.)
first annoyed user. *leaves*

I'm sorry, I just don't like it when topics turn into arguments.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:35 pm

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:48 pm

billy bob wrote:I don't think MS needs to pay us. To get to play the new game early (for free) and have your name in the credits. I'm surprised we're not paying MS.

Well, we will pay MS when the game comes out.

ab-47 wrote:ok. consider it you guys got the job.
will you guys have the same skill that the level makers of MOFI had.
don't tell me that still you guys are called "the awesome Pentagon"
The MOFI maker has more skill and puzzles. what makes the 5 of you get the same skill that they got.
also. MNIK's hub (lattius road) has good puzzles. but were they as good as MOFI puzzles.

Master wonder Mage is making a hub too, will it have good puzzles
like MOFI.
Almost forgot... your levels in the custom adventures are Action (needs some moving) and hardly a puzzle (thinking).............I think I over reacted a-bit hope this won't hurt anyone's feelings.

Let's just say both have their strengths, and cannot be compared. Actually, even an official adventure maker (Qloof) complains about the final game's difficulty curve being too extreme. Due to the age of the community being younger than when it was 2007, custom adventure makers turn to make adventures filled with more actions rather than puzzles to suit the "taste" of the general community. It doesn't mean they can't solve hard puzzles, it just means that they enjoy action more than puzzles, and is not a proper mark of the adventure maker's ability. (think of kids riding a rollercoaster, and elders only wanting a ride on the car along the beach)

Also, my modification to the Awesome:
Head: MS
Members:
-Qloof234 <- always respected
-jdl
-Blast!10
-Emerald141
-MyNameIsKooky
-TheThaumaturge
-Master Wonder Mage
-Nobody

ab-47 wrote:emerald... MS won't take forum users who make custom levels. He must have His own level makers. otherwise if MS took the five of you, I'll call that (by all the respect) CHEAP. see the credits again. the level makers are users here who WORK as level makers. What I mean is that the level makers who made MOFI works for MS. But us! we are just fans (probably) in this forum. not workers.

Untrue. MS is an indie developer, and he did invited a few users to make adventures for MOFI.

Master Wonder Mage · Post by **Master Wonder Mage** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:54 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:Also, my modification to the Awesome:
Head: MS
Members:
-Qloof234 <- always respected
-jdl
-Blast!10
-Emerald141
-MyNameIsKooky
-TheThaumaturge
-Master Wonder Mage
-Nobody

But when's the last time jdl, Qloof, or Blast designed an adventure? We were talking about current. And MS is above awesome.[/quote]

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:18 pm

I stopped making adventures because.... Well, I don't know. I guess I moved on to other games and went from there. I'm not saying the Wonderland games are boring, I've just stopped playing them all of a sudden. I'll probably get back into adventure making once the editor is updated.

Oh and about MOPI.... Um... Well..... I don't know!

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:33 pm