Wonderland Bonus Coin tracking

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:55 am

As a completionist and fan of the Wonderland series, I think it would be really cool if the original Wonderland kept track of all of the bonus points and gave you a golden level icon like the later games did! I recently beat the first game and got all of the bonus points I could, but I really want to be sure that I got everything. Perhaps in an update, this could be added? It would be weird if a game from 2002 got updated in 2018, but I think it's worth it. I would play the entire game again in a heartbeat just to make sure I got all of them!

RoberTime · Post by **RoberTime** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:51 pm

Hello and welcome to the forums!

I have strong disbelief that such game would be updated today just for that one extra feature. I'm pretty sure that game was the way it was intended to be, where bonus coins don't matter much, and more for how many points you can get in the game.

Though, if you want to be sure you've gotten all of the bonuses, you can keep track of them yourself on paper, notepad, or spreadsheet to name a few ideas. Oh, and congrats for getting all of those bonuses! I'm currently in the process of doing it myself!

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

If there was a document that told of exactly how many bonus coins were in each level, that could work, but I would have to check all of the levels to see if I remember getting them. And I thought that the game wouldn't be updated for that reason too, but I still think that the bonus coins are a fun extra challenge that should be kept track of so that we don't have to. I suppose if it doesn't happen, then it's not really required for completion, but they're just THERE. Taunting you. It almost feels like they were built to be kept track of, and the addition of tracking would technically add a lot more content simply by being there as a completion task. BTW, how's your 100% run of the series doing? Don't forget Krabby Quest!

Wonderland King · Post by **Wonderland King** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:23 am

If it were added (which is unlikely), I guess it could be added as an optional setting.

Also, welcome to the forum. I fear there's not much to see at the moment, though.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Thank you! I'm glad to be here. I don't think it would need to be an optional setting because it doesn't affect the game like playing it in no-timed-mode would. All it does is keep track of bonuses. However, since tracking has not been in place before this point, we will probably need to play levels again to get the gold check, which might be weird to someone who just downloads this potential update, so maybe that would be a reason for having it as an extra option.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Maybe they could also add a couple of language options and maybe even add the option to change the teleporter texture like RTW to help justify a new update.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:35 pm

Or they could fix some glitches like walking through a teleporter before the camera catches up to you at the beginning of the level.

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:50 am

I've recently 100%ed the entire original trilogy and I gotta say I'm glad the first Wonderland game has optional bonus coins. Unlike the later games, they're not necessarily placed in a way to make getting them all enjoyable and generally only exist as a "how many can you get" challenge. That being said updates for these games are basically unrealistic.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:30 pm

I've personally found getting all of them very enjoyable to get since they offer challenges otherwise nonexistent. And as far as it being unrealistic goes, I agree, but a man can dream

I just kinda feel like I still have to collect these for 100% completion, even though they're not technically required. RoberTimes idea of a spreadsheet was actually pretty good, which I think I'll make soon. Also, you haven't completed the series unless you've completed Krabby Quest! It's almost as if I'm the only one who knows there's a 4th classic game...

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:30 pm

I've personally found getting all of them very enjoyable to get since they offer challenges otherwise nonexistent. And as far as it being unrealistic goes, I agree, but a man can dream

I just kinda feel like I still have to collect these for 100% completion, even though they're not technically required. RoberTimes idea of a spreadsheet was actually pretty good, which I think I'll make soon. Also, you haven't completed the series unless you've completed Krabby Quest! It's almost as if I'm the only one who knows there's a 4th classic game...

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:31 pm

I wonder why it posted the same message twice...

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Maybe it would be fun if several of us created spreadsheets of every bonus coin in the game and compared them to create the most accurate sheet possible.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:54 pm

I didn't know how to normally share spreadsheets, so I just snipped it and called it a day. Anyway, here is what I found! The letters are levels, and the numbers are worlds. #11 is the Playground. Please make sure to correct me if any of the numbers you see on the spreadsheet are wrong.

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:29 pm

Useful chart, but please don't send multiple posts in a row. This isn't a chatroom. Edit your previous posts whenever possible.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:32 pm

Sorry about that! I'll keep that in mind for later.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:10 am

I believe this is information billy bob would have...

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:12 pm

What do you mean?

Wonderland King · Post by **Wonderland King** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:37 pm

Billy bob knows everything.

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:17 pm

It is I, Billy Bob!

Triple-0 67 wrote:As a completionist and fan of the Wonderland series...

You're more than just that though, aren't you?

Triple-0 67 wrote:I just kinda feel like I still have to collect these for 100% completion...

100% completion... you're not thinking about... speedrun categories are you?

It's just that... I couldn't help but notice this page that you created: https://www.speedrun.com/Wonderland

Wonderland King wrote:Billy bob knows everything.

Triple-0 67 · Post by **Triple-0 67** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:23 pm

Thank you for noticing! When I started playing Wonderland again after several years, I thought that Wonderland could be an interesting speed game despite its puzzling nature because of the strategy involved. Even in the Unique Demo Levels any% category (which is by far the shortest), I've still managed to find several neat tricks and I still had to do some practice in order to get my best time.

FinnThor · Post by **FinnThor** » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:54 pm

Triple-0 67 wrote:Thank you for noticing! When I started playing Wonderland again after several years, I thought that Wonderland could be an interesting speed game despite its puzzling nature because of the strategy involved. Even in the Unique Demo Levels any% category (which is by far the shortest), I've still managed to find several neat tricks and I still had to do some practice in order to get my best time.

Billy Bob is the master of speedrunning the WA series. He's used all the little tricks and glitches to gain extremely fast times. He's beat Wonderland Adventures (Any %) in under half an hour! (25 minutes)

I think MoFI's time was 49 minutes or something like that, and PoTZ's time was about an hour and twenty minutes? (I don't remember)

However, I'm not a speedrunning person, but I do enjoy watching them.