New Level - (Adv) Stonewalled

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:08 am

Don't get stonewalled, especially in the first part.

Using one of Janet's many fabulous textures, "Stonecave" Thanks JG!

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annedanner · Post by **annedanner** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:26 pm

Hey Kiki,

I don't see any way out of the first part. I noticed your clue about being stonewalled, but .... will you help me think outside the box? By the way, I love this level - the look and the challenge.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:07 pm

PM sent Anne.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:20 pm

Wow! This is a real humstinker!

The trick in the first part I remember you used before but it took me a while before I thought of that though. Then it took me a long time to get the boulders where I wanted them, at least alive. And I guess you can guess what was the third problem, and also what I did then.

Then, finally I understood the hint, which I'd almost forgotten.

Thanks for the fun!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:20 pm

What a major misdirection!

I am surprised never to have seen this boulder-puzzle before, or anything like it. Thanks!

annedanner · Post by **annedanner** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:36 pm

Oh, Yoo Hoo! Rather than strain my brain anymore, I thought I'd ask for help with that boulder puzzle. Anyone?

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:25 pm

I assume we are talking about the boulder puzzle in the yellow timer room...
If yes then here is a wee hint.

Push the right boulder into the second boulder from the top of the four in a row, so it now is the left most boulder.

Then push that boulder down, then push the third from the top left the up then the bottom boulder down then left.

Now push the boulder you first pushed back to the right then quickly push the top up then stand and wait for the other to return.

Now in one fell swoop push the top right then quickly step down pushing the one that just returned down then step fast out of the way.

Now the yellow timer is activated.

Now deal with the bottie and the cube.

annedanner · Post by **annedanner** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:52 pm

Oh, gosh, Marinus and Kiki. I forgot to post back here that I didn't need help anymore.

I figured it out!

But...the funny thing about getting both of your hints? You both did the boulders differently with the

cube and bottie.

I think I did it even a third way which makes these levels so much fun!

I took care of the bottie first with the cube by leaving the cube at the bottom of the ice slide. That made the thing with the boulders not so hair-raising!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:23 am

Anne, I fail to see how the cube can help with the bottie. As far as I can see, the boulder puzzel and the bottie puzzle are unrelated and can be done in any order.

I did the boulder puzzle a bit differently:

1. Enter the area by pushing therightmost boulder all the way.
2. Leftmost boulder goes down.
3. Second boulder from top goes left and first boulder down to take its place. Leftmost boulder up.
4. Middle boulder right, bottom boulder down and left.
5. Bottom boulder up, remaining boulder left.
6. Top boulder right and start moving left half a second later, so Peegue is inside the boulder.
7. down, pushing the boulder and immediately right.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:28 am

Yes there are more than one way for this part and I'm fine with that, I had a ton of trouble making it work.
It looks like Amnon did it the way I do it.

What ever way you make it work is the right way.

annedanner · Post by **annedanner** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:40 am

kiki wrote:What ever way you make it work is the right way.

I totally agree, Kiki! I love to see everyone's solutions.

Amnon, here's how I did the cube:

After moving the boulder to the left and pushing the leftmost boulder either up or down, I then moved the first boulder against the wall. (Stonewalled, Kiki : ))

I then went and used the boulder when I first came into the area to redirect the bottie. I then collected the coin because the bottie was going in a straight line from left to right. I then went around and pushed the cube down to direct the bottie to the blue timer button.

I left the cube where it was and went and finished with the boulders. So...I guess I did the bottie smack dab in the middle of the boulders!!

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:45 am

Thank you Anne, my way of dealing with the bottie was not so intelligent - it just required strict brute-force timing.

jenk · Post by **jenk** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:02 am

Please help!

I am seriously stuck on this level....

After trying different combinations for about three hours, and now its two in the morning!

I am stuck at the very beginning with the boulders and keg......

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:05 am

great, and chalenging level, kiki. Thanks

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:05 am

I hope this helps Jenks.

The two right greys and keg are to build a bridge to the keg and grey at left.
First push the bottom grey up to the coin above it.
Then push the keg to the tile above the top grey then push the lower grey up to the top grey then push them left up left down.
Then push the keg left to complete the bridge.
Now step on the green timer and push the grey right and the keg right but not as far as the grey.
Now push the keg down so its to the left of the gen then roll the grey into it destroying the hidden box.
This should get you going.

Amnon · Post by **Amnon** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:05 am

I am stuck at the very beginning with the boulders and keg......

The key move is to kick a boulder towards another with a keg just behind it, so the second boulder is not tossed off.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:06 am

Thanks Amnon the more hints the better for this one.
Thanks for all the comments folks.

jenk · Post by **jenk** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:15 am

Wow, I never thought that technique would work!

I always thought that the keg would explode when doing so!

Thanks for such quick replies!

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:36 am

Well it seems we all four did it a bit differently. Amnon used the inside boulder / bowl me down glitch and as far as I can see he's the only one who did.

I think I did it almost the same as Anne, letting the z-bot go left and right to the boulder. I only made it a bit harder, letting myself run faster.

After I had one boulder destroyed a woodbox, and four boulders in a vertical line, you pushed the second one from top left on the upper yellow timer, if I'm right. But I pushed the third one from top right instead, and then I did the z-bot part.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:22 am

I was up against a stonewall for the longest time!

Falling for your trap in the first area until a little light went on.
Solved the mystery of the boulder inside the green gate when I finally spotted a tiny out-of-the way button.

Such a powerful pack of twisty-fun puzzles! Boxes & Boulders & Kegs! Oh My!

Thank you, Sir Kiki!

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:04 am

Well Keeks - needless to say I can't do it!

I'm proud to say that I worked out all the first part by myself. Everything including getting the z-bot on the light blue timer. BUT I can't do that dastardly boulder puzzle, whether I try it the way you say or the way Anne says.

Haven't got time to try over and over though.

I've really enjoyed playing yet another Keeks masterpiece.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:00 am

Liz, here are some screenshots with a little description:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfjng2bx_128d84895cr

Maybe this helps.

Liz Mayhew · Post by **Liz Mayhew** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:14 am

Marinus - you are an angel. Thank you so much for spelling it out step by step and with such clear screenshots.

So Keeks - I've finally managed to get poor ol' Peegue home. That boulder puzzle must have taken a long time to construct. What a challenge!

Thanks for this one.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:57 am

Marinus, superb screen shots, thank you sir.

Liz that boulder puzzle absolutely gave me fits but I was determined to make it work.
I originally had the bot timer in that area but the bot kept getting kilt by the rolling boulder.
So glad you were able to finish.

jcvalcar2 · Post by **jcvalcar2** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:41 am

That bolder puzzle gave me fits too, it seemed like I tried every which way I could think of to get things in place,
it was just out of reach

I'm so glad you posted a spoiler so I could finish this gem.

Jeepers what a toughy this was for me, thanks for the major brain strainer.

margmarg · Post by **margmarg** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:10 pm

I must be dumb!
I can't work out the very start,how doI first move the grey on my right when I start so that it is still in a position to move it again?
Help please!!

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:16 pm

margmarg wrote:I can't work out the very start,how doI first move the grey on my right when I start so that it is still in a position to move it again?

Walk LDLU

CL300678 · Post by **CL300678** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:07 am

Oh, I really love your levels, Kiki! The boulder puzzle was number-one-ace-fun!

bob roest · Post by **bob roest** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:52 pm

Brilliant work Keeks!

The boulders took me one very long time to decipher.

Thanks bud,

New Level - (Adv) Stonewalled

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