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Post by dig 222 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Nobody wrote:okay krish
uh oh
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Post by yot yot5 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:21 pm

Nobody wrote:okay krish
I think I am going to scream.

Just because there isn't anything technically wrong with giving Krishiv a shortened name doesn't mean you can deliberately give him one just to be annoying! Krishiv was overreacting, but you're being very rude.
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Post by Sammy_P » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:42 pm

yot yot5 wrote:you're being very rude.
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but seriously, can we try to not make 29308462 pages of argument
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Post by MyNameIsKooky » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:56 pm

PCPUZZLE
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

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yot yot5 wrote:
Nobody wrote:okay krish
I think I am going to scream.
On the Internet, no one can hear you scream. :(
yot yot5 wrote:Just because there isn't anything technically wrong with giving Krishiv a shortened name doesn't mean you can deliberately give him one just to be annoying!
Krish deserves it though. :twisted:
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Post by DEEMAN223344 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:26 pm

stop tainting this thread
someone delete this argument please
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Post by Nobody » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:16 pm

woah, I was the one who did it this time

woah
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Post by Nobody » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:05 am

DP/Bump.

Uh, is it new that if you use Command 51 to set creatures of your own ID (-1) to the MovementType of 30, you freak out and involuntarily try to go as far North as possible, then start randomly(?) choosing between going Southwest and Southeast once you've accomplished this goal, but can still cast magic? Because I didn't know about that.
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Post by Krishiv738 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:09 am

Nobody wrote:DP/Bump.

Uh, is it new that if you use Command 51 to set creatures of your own ID (-1) to the MovementType of 30, you freak out and involuntarily try to go as far North as possible, then start randomly(?) choosing between going Southwest and Southeast once you've accomplished this goal, but can still cast magic? Because I didn't know about that.
I did that in POTZ hub
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Post by Nobody » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:14 am

GUYS, HOW COME THE FACT THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE FULLY MOVEMENTTYPE ADJUSTABLE HASN'T BEEN USED IN ANY ADVENTURES YET?! SETTING YOUR MOVEMENTTYPE TO A SPIKEYBALL ONE MAKES YOU ACT LIKE A SPIKEYBALL, AND SETTING IT TO A SCRITTER ONE MAKES YOU DESPERATELY HEAD NORTH IN A FUTILE ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE YOURSELF!

Sorry about the shift key, I was just overexcited.

Anyway, a plot point introduced in TMC4 actually works perfectly with this newfound discovery of mine, so even though I was going to do something totally different, I call dibs on adjusting the Player's MovementType now, at least for a brief section of the level.
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Post by Nobody » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:19 am

DP.

Well, Blinking while acting like a SpikeyBall seems to cause the same sort of wall as Blinking while flying. That doesn't mean there's not an opportunity for level design though.

EDIT: Too bad my two best ideas so far involve Grow and Flash when I'll have to make do with Pop, Blink, Brr, and MakeshiftPow.
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Post by Jutomi » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:38 pm

You could try to make an other one once POTZ comes out. :P
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Post by Muzozavr » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:42 pm

YOU YOURSELF ARE FULLY MOVEMENTTYPE ADJUSTABLE
Wait, WHAT!?! Adventures with mind control plots have become several times more awesome.
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Post by MyNameIsKooky » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:36 pm

I... wha... that's... uh... YES.

I can't believe no one has ever tried that before. :shock:
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Post by Krishiv738 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:17 am

MyNameIsKooky wrote:I... wha... that's... uh... YES.

I can't believe no one has ever tried that before. :shock:

I had tried before Nobody tried,I was faster.

Also you can beat race levels where the star is on the north,use Cmd 51 on player with Scritter movement type and here you go,you win.(not tried,can be false also)
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Post by yot yot5 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:23 am

Nobody wrote:GUYS, HOW COME THE FACT THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE FULLY MOVEMENTTYPE ADJUSTABLE HASN'T BEEN USED IN ANY ADVENTURES YET?! SETTING YOUR MOVEMENTTYPE TO A SPIKEYBALL ONE MAKES YOU ACT LIKE A SPIKEYBALL, AND SETTING IT TO A SCRITTER ONE MAKES YOU DESPERATELY HEAD NORTH IN A FUTILE ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE YOURSELF!

Sorry about the shift key, I was just overexcited.

Anyway, a plot point introduced in TMC4 actually works perfectly with this newfound discovery of mine, so even though I was going to do something totally different, I call dibs on adjusting the Player's MovementType now, at least for a brief section of the level.
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Post by Qloof234 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:36 am

Krishiv738 wrote:I had tried before Nobody tried,I was faster.
Good for you. In that case, why didn't you post it? :roll:
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Post by Krishiv738 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:06 am

Qloof234 wrote:
Krishiv738 wrote:I had tried before Nobody tried,I was faster.
Good for you. In that case, why didn't you post it? :roll:
I found it 2 weeks ago

The day was Saturday when I found it,I didn't have access to internet on weekends,after weekends,I forgot that,I remembered when Nobody posted.
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Post by DEEMAN223344 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:21 pm

yeah right sure you did
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Post by jdl » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:55 pm

Krishiv738, please, it does not matter who found what. It also does not matter if they found it first.

I don't know what you're trying to prove by saying you found or did something first.

This also goes for your "YOU STOLE MY POST!!!" thing that you do. I would much rather be happy someone posted something for me than to have to type it myself.
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Post by Krishiv738 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:30 pm

THIS IS GOING OFF-TOPIC!!!
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Post by Muzozavr » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Krishiv738 wrote:THIS IS GOING OFF-TOPIC!!!
You started it... :roll:
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Post by yot yot5 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:46 pm

Krishiv738 wrote:
Qloof234 wrote:
Krishiv738 wrote:I had tried before Nobody tried,I was faster.
Good for you. In that case, why didn't you post it? :roll:
I found it 2 weeks ago

The day was Saturday when I found it,I didn't have access to internet on weekends,after weekends,I forgot that,I remembered when Nobody posted.
What do you want Nobody to do? Do you want him to edit his post and say that you found it first and he didn't really have much to do with it? Do you want him to apologize to you? Do you want the community's respect for discovering this thing first?

Well, if you want any of those things, then you really need to rethink this situation. If you forgot to upload this discovery that you aparently found first, then it can't have been that important to you. However, it WAS important to Nobody and he uploaded it. That doesn't make him "better" than you, it just means he happened to tell us before you and we're thanking him for it.

On the other hand, if you don't want any of those things then please stop telling other people they "stole" your posts/ideas. It isn't gaining you any respect.
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Post by Jutomi » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:52 pm

Krishiv738 wrote:THIS IS GOING OFF-TOPIC!!!
Apparently so. :|

Any chance you could give me that static floing bubble? :lol:
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Post by Qloof234 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:00 am

yot yot5 wrote:What do you want Nobody to do? Do you want him to edit his post and say that you found it first and he didn't really have much to do with it? Do you want him to apologize to you? Do you want the community's respect for discovering this thing first?

Well, if you want any of those things, then you really need to rethink this situation. If you forgot to upload this discovery that you aparently found first, then it can't have been that important to you. However, it WAS important to Nobody and he uploaded it. That doesn't make him "better" than you, it just means he happened to tell us before you and we're thanking him for it.

On the other hand, if you don't want any of those things then please stop telling other people they "stole" your posts/ideas. It isn't gaining you any respect.
Exactly this. There's a difference between "oh I thought you already knew about X so I didn't post it" and "I found this first this is MY discovery not yours". The latter isn't going to win you any points, and it's certainly not going to make people respect you.

Better to repost something that's been discovered before on the off-chance that it's new than to wait until someone else posts it and call them out on posting "your discovery".

ON THAT NOTE. It's probably best to get this back on-topic.
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Post by Qloof234 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:09 am

DP.

Done some poking around, I think I've found a complete list of models in the game's .exe...

There are some... interesting things in here.

More details once I've done a bit more searching.
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Post by Jutomi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:39 am

Should I be scared of these... interesting things?
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Post by Sammy_P » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:41 am

Jutomi wrote:Should I be scared of these... interesting things?
probably
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Post by Qloof234 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:44 am

Right, so I think this is a complete list of the models (from PoTZ). After this seems to be the game's textures, so I don't think there's anything else.

This is loooong, by the way.
  • !Cage - Self-explanatory.
    !FlipBridge - Self-explanatory.
    !Spring - Self-explanatory.
    !ColourGate - the cube-shaped gates.
    !Transporter - Self-explanatory.
    !Teleport - Teleporters.
    !Suctube - Suction Tube, straight segments.
    !SteppingStone - Bridges (the button-activated ones)
    !Gem - Self-explanatory.
    !Obstacle - I don't think this actually points to anything?
    !Obstacle10 - Mushroom.
    !Obstacle51 - ??? Editor crashes if I try selecting this. Something from PoTZ, I think.
    !Obstacle55 - Same as above?
    !Obstacle59 - Same as above?
    !Player - OH BOY. Crashes editor if I try picking it, though.
    !Hat - Same as above.
    !Shadow - Self-explanatory, but I haven't tried this yet.
    !NPC - Stinker NPC.
    !StinkerWee - Wee Stinkers.
    !Cage - Duplicate? Not sure what this is doing here.
    !StarGate - White picket toll gates.
    !Autodoor - Z-Bot Auto-door from PoTZ.
    !Scritter - Self-explanatory.
    !RainbowBubble - Self-explanatory.
    !Lurker - Self-explanatory.
    !Ghost - Self-explanatory.
    !Wraith - Self-explanatory.
    !Turtle - Self-explanatory.
    !Crab - Self-explanatory.
    !Troll - Self-explanatory.
    !Kaboom - Self-explanatory.
    !BabyBoomer - Self-explanatory.
    !FireFlower - Self-explanatory.
    !BurstFlower - Self-explanatory.
    !Chomper - Self-explanatory.
    !Thwart - Self-explanatory.
    !Bowler - Spikeyball. I guess they were called Bowlers during development?
    !Tentacle - Self-explanatory.
    !Busterfly - Butterflies. Wonder if the s is a typo?
    !Rubberducky - Self-explanatory.
    !GlowWorm - Self-explanatory.
    !Zipper - Pretty sure this is the Glow-Worm type thing from PoTZ that sticks to the "wired" tiles like ZipBots do.
    !Void - Self-explanatory.
    !GrowFlower - Not sure which of the flowers it is, but I think this speaks for itself.
    !FloingBubble - Self-explanatory.
    !Spring - Dupe again...
    !Suctube - And again.
    !SuctubeX - Suction Tube, corner pieces.
    !FlipBridge - Dupe?
    !WaterFall - Self-explanatory.
    !Star - Self-explanatory.
    !Wisp - Wysp model (not sure why it's spelled Wisp, though... typo?)
    !Sun Sphere1 - Decoration thing from PoTZ.
    !Sun Sphere2 - Broken/early version of the above? Unused in-game. No transparency/colour.
    !Coin - Self-explanatory.
    !Token - Self-explanatory.
    !Key - Self-explanatory.
    !KeyCard - Self-explanatory.
    !Gem - Dupe again.
    !Crystal - Rainbow/Void shard model from PoTZ.
    !CustomItem - Gold item square.
    !Sign - Self-explanatory.
    !Barrel1 - Self-explanatory - Regular barrel.
    !Barrel2 - Self-explanatory - TNT barrel. Not sure why it's two different models...
    !Cuboid - Self-explanatory.
    !ColourGate - Dupe again...
    !Transporter - And again.
    !Conveyor - Self-explanatory, from PoTZ.
    !Button - Self-explanatory.
    !SteppingStone - Dupe.
    !Teleport - Dupe.
    !Portal Warp - Rainbow Portal from PoTZ.
    !IceBlock - Brr cube around frozen things! Doesn't seem to load in-editor.
    !IceFloat - Brr float.
    !PlantFloat - Rainbow float.
    !Door - Self-explanatory.
    !SpellBall - Self-explanatory - Crashes editor if used.
    !Item - Unused blue crystal item pickup from WA1 beta.
    !Fence1 - Regular fence.
    !Fence2 - Unused, early fence? Seems less detailed... Final texture fits it, not sure what this is doing here.
    !Fencepost - Fence post.
    !Fountain - Self-explanatory.
    !Cylinder - Generic cylinder model? Crashes editor if used.
    !Square - Generic square model.
    !Retrobox - Self-explanatory.
    !Retrocoily - Self-explanatory.
    !Retroscouge - Self-explanatory.
    !Retrozbot - Self-explanatory.
    !Retroufo - Self-explanatory.
    !Retrolasergate - Self-explanatory.
    !Weebot - Zip-Bots.
    !Zapbot - Self-explanatory.
    !Pushbot - Moo-Bots.
    !ZbotNPC - Master Z-Bots.
    !Mothership - Self-explanatory.
    !FloingOrb - Generic ball model. Perhaps the Floing Orbs in MoFI had their own model during development? Not sure why it's unused. Interesting, nonetheless.
    !MagicMirror - Self-explanatory.
    !SkyMachineMap - The Fire Island map seen near the start of MoFI.
    !None - Self-explanatory.
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Post by Qloof234 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:06 am

DP again.

This is kinda strange. The !FloingOrb model definitely points to something - I tried swapping it in via manually editing a .wlv file to make a SunSphere use its model, and it worked fine.

Thing is, if I try using it with the custom item logic, the game crashes. I'm... kinda confused. This is unused in MoFI, but if it doesn't work as an item, what's it here for...?
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Post by Krishiv738 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:14 am

The !sun sphere 2 is inner ball of the !sun sphere 1 perhaps.I tried all the models which are not found like !spellball,!floingbubble exept growflower and ice block..
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