Classic trilogy soundtracks

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Classic trilogy soundtracks

Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:35 am

I want the OGG. files of this soundtracks:
1.Stinky's cove(WSW)
2.Temple ruins(WSW)
3.Intro(WSW)
4.Cloud City(WSW)

If someone can help me please reply
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:55 am

Anyone?
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Post by Jutomi » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:16 am

I don't know if it'll work...
If it did, I missed it when I was searching the section. :?
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Post by garirry » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:24 am

Well, all CT (classic trilogy, remember this) soundtracks are available on the MS super CD game collection. (that I own). I could send them to you if this doesn't break the forum rules. :wink:
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:25 am

Maybe someone can talk to MS or can someone tell me how do I use the numbers of the OGG.files?
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Post by samuelthx » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:24 am

Huh. I'm planning a music pack which actually includes some of those music tracks--you can get them in .ogg format by using VLC. I hope its not illegal *looks around nervously*
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:59 am

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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:01 am

I PMed MS to see this topic.
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Post by Midnight Synergy » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:30 am

Hi, if you want to use them in your custom levels, that's fine. Obviously, no use beyond is allowed.
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:00 pm

Thanks Patrick!
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:49 pm

So about the soundtracks...can someone to post them?
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Post by garirry » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:01 pm

OondiLalaLoopy wrote:So about the soundtracks...can someone to post them?
I'll post it here/PM you once I come back home! :P
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:39 pm

garirry wrote:
OondiLalaLoopy wrote:So about the soundtracks...can someone to post them?
I'll post it here/PM you once I come back home! :P
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Post by garirry » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:20 pm

Here is the music files! Had to upload through Drive because the attachment is too big for this forum.

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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:44 pm

Thanks garirry!
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Post by Pawelec » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:11 pm

Hey, guys, I've just thought of one thing. If we could get these as MIDI files, I can get access to my father's professional music software, such as virtual orchestra, so I can make MP3s which would sound as if they were recorded yesterday, not years ago. I PMed Patrick to ask if he has the MIDI version.
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Post by garirry » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:14 pm

Pawelec wrote:Hey, guys, I've just thought of one thing. If we could get these as MIDI files, I can get access to my father's professional music software, such as virtual orchestra, so I can make MP3s which would sound as if they were recorded yesterday, not years ago. I'll ask Patrick if he has the MIDI version.
I doubt he has it, I think only the composer, Jonne Valtonen (I think) has the files. And even if he does, I doubt he'll give them to us. I do indeed have my own pro music program, so if anyone here is able to re-create the songs in MIDIs, then it'll be fantastic. Me personally, I can't do such a thing, but I think my father knows how to.
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Post by Muzozavr » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:20 pm

There are no MIDI files for the Classic Trilogy tracks and there never were.

If you open up certain "resX.dat" files (X is a number) in tracker software (like OpenMPT) you'll find the structure of the original music files. I don't remember the exact numbers, though.

It's all tracker music (I think the original format was .IT) and the basis is sample manipulation, not MIDI/plugin instruments. Some sounds may be exported from plugins, but we'll never know that, of course.

If you're prepared to do IT-to-MIDI conversions (and deal with a poorly structured MIDI with lots of weird quirks, half of which don't even WORK in most MIDI editors) or create a handmade MIDI file based on the IT file (and deal with all the headaches of doing that yourself), THEN you can do what you're describing. Otherwise, you're out of luck, as Jonne Valtonen is an expert at tracker music and the whole thing never was a MIDI file to begin with.
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Post by Pawelec » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:22 pm

What a luck! My father had composed a lot of tracker music and I think he found a method to easily convert his pieces to MIDI. Now I wonder how to get the .it files from original Wonderland data...

EDIT: OK, nevermind, I managed to convert the files to MIDI, but there are two problems:
- major problem: there are thousands of program changes in midi tracks which link the tracks between all the instruments. I'd like to get rid of that and get all corresponding notes moved to the correct track,
- minor one: I need to somehow attach percussion instruments to the samples and it's not easy to guess which one is correct.
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:31 am

Note to garirry:the files are not .OGG,they are MP3.How do I use them?
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Post by garirry » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:15 pm

OondiLalaLoopy wrote:Note to garirry:the files are not .OGG,they are MP3.How do I use them?
You will have to convert them. There is a wonderful program called DVDVideoSoft Free Studio which lets you not only convert these files to the correct file, but it lets you convert pretty much any file in any file. It's a great app.

I'm however not sure if it converts files to .ogg, please let me know if it does or not. Hope this helps! :wink:
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:11 pm

garirry wrote:
OondiLalaLoopy wrote:Note to garirry:the files are not .OGG,they are MP3.How do I use them?
You will have to convert them. There is a wonderful program called DVDVideoSoft Free Studio which lets you not only convert these files to the correct file, but it lets you convert pretty much any file in any file. It's a great app.

I'm however not sure if it converts files to .ogg, please let me know if it does or not. Hope this helps! :wink:
...and I place the .OGG files in Data/Music.
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Post by Wonderman109 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:18 pm

Yep
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Post by Pawelec » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:03 pm

I'd go for Audacity to convert between MP3 and OGG. To convert, import audio from MP3 file then export as OGG. To make sure the new OGG file works absolutely in every software, even the most primitive one, in the export window click the 'Clear' button if it's available (sometimes it isn't just because there's nothing to be cleaned).
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Post by garirry » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:00 pm

Slight bump
Pawelec wrote:EDIT: OK, nevermind, I managed to convert the files to MIDI, but there are two problems:
- major problem: there are thousands of program changes in midi tracks which link the tracks between all the instruments. I'd like to get rid of that and get all corresponding notes moved to the correct track,
- minor one: I need to somehow attach percussion instruments to the samples and it's not easy to guess which one is correct.
Can you send me the midis so I could try to fix those issues?
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Post by Pawelec » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:11 pm

garirry wrote:Slight bump
Pawelec wrote:EDIT: OK, nevermind, I managed to convert the files to MIDI, but there are two problems:
- major problem: there are thousands of program changes in midi tracks which link the tracks between all the instruments. I'd like to get rid of that and get all corresponding notes moved to the correct track,
- minor one: I need to somehow attach percussion instruments to the samples and it's not easy to guess which one is correct.
Can you send me the midis so I could try to fix those issues?
To be honest I've already deleted the files as they turned out to be completely useless... :oops:
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Post by garirry » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:18 am

Pawelec wrote:To be honest I've already deleted the files as they turned out to be completely useless... :oops:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cry:

By chance, could it still be in your recycle bin? :roll:
If not, then, could you tell me what did you do to extract the midis?
(Also, what do you mean by "completely useless"?)
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Post by OondiLalaLoopy » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:59 pm

Can someone please convert the files for me?I need internet connection and I don't have.I navigate on the phone so... :(
and please post them here or dropbox please.
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