Tricky Puzzles

dlcs18 · Post by **dlcs18** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:36 pm

Ok I've got another one...

Because Daisy Mae apparently 'sucked' so the parrot couldn't be bothered to learn anything she said because he thought Daisy was French.

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:03 pm

(funny)

Sorry, no again. But, one of your previous guesses, could also be a hint!

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:49 pm

The parrot is deaf...

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:14 pm

You said that the parrot would repeat "words" and "phrases," but not "sentences." Is this why?
Did she even buy the parrot?

P.S. Muzo, I didn't kick myself. I only saw I was on the wrong track.

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:19 pm

Sorry, I've been on the treadmill.

Lutz wrote:The parrot is deaf...

Correct!

You are the WINNER!

Ok, your turn.

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:35 pm

Dizzy1 wrote:Sorry, I've been on the treadmill.

Lutz wrote:The parrot is deaf...
Correct! You are the WINNER!

Ok, your turn.

But, but, the shop assistant assured, ASSURED you that the parrot would repeat anything that you said.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:40 pm

Polly want a cracker?

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:46 pm

mqdar wrote:
Dizzy1 wrote:Sorry, I've been on the treadmill.

Lutz wrote:The parrot is deaf...
Correct! You are the WINNER!

Ok, your turn.
But, but, the shop assistant assured, ASSURED you that the parrot would repeat anything that you said.

Actually, here's what I said: "The shop assistant assured her that the parrot would learn and repeat any word or phrase it heard. "

But, Mqdar, when you said this: "You said that the parrot would repeat "words" and "phrases," but not "sentences." Is this why?
Did she even buy the parrot?" Maybe you were thinking it was one of Muzozavr's riddles? You were thinking way too hard.

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:12 pm

Next one:

Here's some maths

Make 21 out of 1, 5, 6 and 7.
You may use every number only once and you may only add, substract, multiply or divide.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:20 pm

Lutz wrote:Make 21 out of 1, 5, 6 and 7.

Am I allowed to use the " . " as well?

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:25 pm

It's not in my solution but I don't know if there is more than one...

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:28 pm

I was thinking:

6 * 7 * .5 * 1

But I'll keep thinking.

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:29 pm

It should be 0.5 then and 0 isn't allowed

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:42 pm

When I type first a . and then a 5 on my calculator or computer, it doesn't say: "Error, you should type a number before the . "

But I'll keep thinking.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:07 pm

15 + 6

You didn't say we must use every number.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:19 pm

Marinus wrote:15 + 6

You didn't say we must use every number.

DUH me! Didn't see that comin'.

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:09 am

jdl wrote:
Marinus wrote:15 + 6

You didn't say we must use every number.
DUH me! Didn't see that comin'.

Me neither

Guess this is correct, but there's a solution using all 4 numbers...

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:30 am

Dizzy1 wrote:
mqdar wrote:
Dizzy1 wrote:Sorry, I've been on the treadmill.

Lutz wrote:The parrot is deaf...
Correct! You are the WINNER!

Ok, your turn.
But, but, the shop assistant assured, ASSURED you that the parrot would repeat anything that you said.

Actually, here's what I said: "The shop assistant assured her that the parrot would learn and repeat any word or phrase it heard. "

But, Mqdar, when you said this: "You said that the parrot would repeat "words" and "phrases," but not "sentences." Is this why?
Did she even buy the parrot?" Maybe you were thinking it was one of Muzozavr's riddles? You were thinking way too hard.

Was I?

I don't think so. My first guess came from another riddle, which used that same sort of idea. Once again, I was on the wrong track. What a bad assistant and what a horrible trick for Daisy!

Lutz, let's see:
Do the numbers have to be themselves, or can you join them together to make bigger numbers?
I have no idea.

:blank: ummmmm.......
Can't think of anything.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:19 am

Dumb thinking: use (7+5)/6 to make 2, then join that 2 with the 1.
Can't think of a "real" solution... even joining the numbers.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:46 am

Well, I drew complete blank, so I decided to google to satisfy my curiousity at the cost of missing a possible turn.

First of all, you do not need to join numbers, and I don't think that joining numbers can actually help in any way.
Second of all, there are no tricks, and it is a fair math puzzle, but the solution follows a fairly counterintuitive approach.

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:57 pm

I can make those numbers total to: 22, 17 and 18, but so far...that's the closest I can get.

I haven't given up yet.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:59 pm

Sorry to burst some of your bubbles, but you're on a COMPLETE wrong track if you try to "tweak" 22 to 21. The solution is very different, so as they say "Not gonna happen".

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:06 pm

My bubble...is slowly bursting!

But I'll keep trying!

mqdar · Post by **mqdar** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:34 pm

Muzozavr wrote:Well, I drew complete blank, so I decided to google to satisfy my curiousity at the cost of missing a possible turn.

First of all, you do not need to join numbers, and I don't think that joining numbers can actually help in any way.
Second of all, there are no tricks, and it is a fair math puzzle, but the solution follows a fairly counterintuitive approach.

I looked up the answer, and found it. The person who said the answer said that they had a master's degree in maths, but I don't know.

Spoiler!!! wrote:6 / (1 - (5 / 7))

Who would think we could get that?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:51 pm

I didn't look at the spoiler yet, maybe I do tomorrow

Although this is not a Y/N puzzle, I have some questions:

Is it a normal formula: ............ =21 ?
Are there only 4 seperate numbers on the dots: 1,5,6 and 7 ?
Is there beside those 4 numbers nothing but these marks: +,-,*,/,( and/or ) ?

Lutz · Post by **Lutz** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:04 pm

It's a normal formula.
It's four separate numbers (each number used exactly once).
+, -, *, /, ( and/or ) are the only signs used.
And nothing like 2³ or square roots or something like this.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:10 pm

Thanks Lutz

Will you please tell me what other signs are needed if you may only

Lutz wrote:add, substract, multiply or divide

Of course I can use then also the () but more signs?????

EDIT:
I see you edited your post so there's no other signs.

Very difficult!!!

Dizzy1 · Post by **Dizzy1** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:02 pm

Lutz, may we have a little hint please?

Not a spoiler, only a small hint!

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:13 pm

Whatever I try, I always miss something with a factor 10! Just like my first guess: 0.5 instead of 5. The 1 should be 10 or 0.1 or such. Is that the trick? Or am I thinking completely wrong?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:42 pm

I looked at the spoiler without highlighting it. Maybe I saw a very little bit thanks to the difference between fafafa and ffffff.

Anyhow I didn't read the exact formula but maybe thanks to that vague little bit I know it. So I didn't figure out completely on my own and I don't know what happened without the spoiler. Never mind, I don't know a riddle at the moment.

Hint: (only what signs needed)

You only need to / and - and then / once more.