The Wonderland Board

It exists. It cannot be used directly in a level-editor... but it exists. Also there's a warp gate that creates fiery shadow stinkers for maximum evilness. They can be hexed into any level.

... oh wait. I just had an idea for a stupidly evil "Shadowish" level. I'll be back

Seriously? But how?

Three letters: HEX.

I don't know the exact hex codes, but for the regular shadow gate find Mark's level "The Marionettes" and for the fiery shadow gate find John925's level "Attack of Mr. Angry".

The Hex codes for the Warp Gates are:

A4 08 (Shadow Stinker Stinky Warp Gate)
A5 08 (Shadow Stinker Loof Warp Gate)
A7 08 (Shadow Stinker Qookie Warp Gate)
A8 08 (Shadow Stinker Peegue Warp Gate)
A9 08 (Fire Shadow Stinker Stinky Warp Gate)
AA 08 (Fire Shadow Stinker Loof Warp Gate)
AB 08 (Fire Shadow Stinker Qookie Warp Gate)
AC 08 (Fire Shadow Stinker Peegue Warp Gate)

MNIK:
If you still want evil levels, try the new "Evil Magic" level. It's really evil!

Muzozavr wrote:MNIK:
If you still want evil levels, try the new "Evil Magic" level. It's really evil!

Yeah, I am still interested in evil levels!

I can't find the "Evil Magic" level. Can you post a link to it, please?

EDIT: Never mind. Found it. I expected it to be in the Custom Adventures forum due to the 'Magic' in the name.

here: http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19533

ACCIDENTAL DOUBLE POST. DELETED.

ben-09 wrote:here: http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19533

Um, I already found it.

yeah, we posted at the same time.

1. I just realized today...

THE FIFTH PLAYABLE CHARACTER IS ALREADY THERE, IN WA!

For RTRTW, the fifth character will be the new playable character introduced in WA... *drum roll*

CUSTOM!!!

I suppose you think Custom is a create-your-own stinker option.

But I believe that Custom is in fact one of the last remaining SHAPE-SHIFTING STINKERS!

Of course, this is very helpful in puzzles where only Loof can free Loof, ect.

I want the portal gun in WA and RTW!

Its would work better in WA, becasue it would function as a type of magic, with the left mouse button shooting a blue portal, and the right mouse button shooting an orange portal.(although you might want to change the colours to avoid copyright infringement. )

But it could still work in RTW. You would face the direction that you want to shoot the portal in, then press the space bar to shoot it.

The portal gun -- meaningless without real 3D. The ONLY (!) reason the portal gun is so great is because it literally allows you to place the portals in any orientation. Ceilings, floors, wall to ceiling transitions, upward flings, you name it, Portal has it. Also, FLINGING. Flinging was the second thing that made Portal rock so hard.

Not so in WA. It isn't a 3D game -- although it has 3D graphics, it takes place on a 2D field. You could potentially shoot portals on walls, and on floors, but without REAL height, no flinging, no ceiling fall-throughs... which means blinking/TPs do the exact same thing except with less hassle.

Muzozavr wrote:The portal gun -- meaningless without real 3D. The ONLY (!) reason the portal gun is so great is because it literally allows you to place the portals in any orientation. Ceilings, floors, wall to ceiling transitions, upward flings, you name it, Portal has it. Also, FLINGING. Flinging was the second thing that made Portal rock so hard.

Not so in WA. It isn't a 3D game -- although it has 3D graphics, it takes place on a 2D field. You could potentially shoot portals on walls, and on floors, but without REAL height, no flinging, no ceiling fall-throughs... which means blinking/TPs do the exact same thing except with less hassle.

Unfortunatly we have to do some workarounds to make real 3D possible in WA.

And it is impossible in RTW

I've just had the most awesome idea ever:

Imagine a WA-style game. With the same ultra-happy cutesy graphics as usual. With psychological horror dialogue.

Would that rock?
(And yes, this is totally me hyped up by the idea of playing Silent Hill I for my very first time... ON HALLOWEEN! )

Muzozavr wrote:I've just had the most awesome idea ever:

Imagine a WA-style game. With the same ultra-happy cutesy graphics as usual. With psychological horror dialogue.

Would that rock?
(And yes, this is totally me hyped up by the idea of playing Silent Hill I for my very first time... ON HALLOWEEN! )

Too scary, I thought Wonderland is a family game?

tyteen4a03 wrote:

Muzozavr wrote:I've just had the most awesome idea ever:

Imagine a WA-style game. With the same ultra-happy cutesy graphics as usual. With psychological horror dialogue.

Would that rock?
(And yes, this is totally me hyped up by the idea of playing Silent Hill I for my very first time... ON HALLOWEEN! )

Too scary, I thought Wonderland is a family game?

You know, I always thought that there SHOULD be some horror stuff that's scary even for most adults but if a kid is brave enough can be safely read/watched/played by that particular kid. Shouldn't be the norm of course... but it's nice to have an option.

Besides, a darker installment in a usually-cute-and-happy franchise done RIGHT... win in my book.

Wysp: Hee hee, time to destroy your head and brain and stomach!

Morklin: Good idea!

You: Indeed.

Morklin: YOU SAID THE WRONG THING NOW I MUST GET THIS KNIFE AND HAVE YOU EAT IT.

That is messed up... o.O

You should make a level with that dialog.

No, seriously.

Add the horrors of dismemberment in the level.

ICK

A stinker with a negative scale?

A stinker with no face?

That's impossible.

So possible. Imagine the unimagined.

I'm speaking in terms of level design, but meh.

Purple Chompers that can fly!

Chompers could now kill Stinky REAL easily. That would be a big problem.

But flying chompers would be a cool addition to a trampoline level.

Well, I guess I will just post my suggestions here now, since my topic failed.

1. An official IRC channel for the Wonderland (pcpuzzle) forums. [It would be a good idea because people can now chat live with instant responses, instead of having a forum style chat where responses may take a while. It would also give us the opportunity of knowing one user better.]

2. Online mode for the Wonderland games. [We see that in some levels, Stinky and the crew work together (controlled by one player) to collaborate the steps for getting to the goal. But what if there was an online mode (2 or more players on a level), where multiple players control a different character to work out a level. There is also a problem with the means of figuring out what the teammates should do. A chat in-game should solve all that.]

3. A Wonderland Arcade. [Added in the games of Wonderland, as an extra feature when the player is tired of playing regular puzzle levels. Arcade games without an ultimate objective (like Tetris, Collapse!, Snake, Break the Dam, and Pacman), would be much more fun for the person experiencing the features of Wonderland. This idea could be also implemented into the forums, but it is a place for discussion, not playing games.]

4. Another category for custom level solutions. Sometimes people's imagination can make exceptional levels, but they are often hard. So, if there was a section for people to post solutions for custom level, it would help a lot. Example of level I am stuck on (for three days now): The Binary Lock- by mette. I managed to figure out the code, but then there is nowhere to go. If there was a solution that gave even vague hints, I would be done by now. -_- But where's the fun in that? Still, it would help.

5. A forum browser app for iPhone/iPod Touch. It could maybe run faster than going to Safari, then going to the discussion board. For example, it took nearly 10 seconds to submit this message.

6. Bosses. Not just a mothership UFO type thing, but something that will only die with 10 hits (explosions, boulders, etc.). Plus, spikes and electro tiles cannot affect it.

That's all for now.

Blink wrote: 2. Online mode for the Wonderland games. [We see that in some levels, Stinky and the crew work together (controlled by one player) to collaborate the steps for getting to the goal. But what if there was an online mode (2 or more players on a level), where multiple players control a different character to work out a level. There is also a problem with the means of figuring out what the teammates should do. A chat in-game should solve all that.]
How do you deal with latency issues? Does this mean MS has to update the levels every often?

BTW, That is also a main concept for WAO.

3. A Wonderland Arcade. [Added in the games of Wonderland, as an extra feature when the player is tired of playing regular puzzle levels. Arcade games without an ultimate objective (like Tetris, Collapse!, Snake, Break the Dam, and Pacman), would be much more fun for the person experiencing the features of Wonderland. This idea could be also implemented into the forums, but it is a place for discussion, not playing games.]
There are many forums out there with an arcade, the only problem is how we intergrate them into the forum system. WonderForum is always ready for Flash arcade system, though.

5. A forum browser app for iPhone/iPod Touch. It could maybe run faster than going to Safari, then going to the discussion board. For example, it took nearly 10 seconds to submit this message.
I think a mobile skin would be better.

6. Bosses. Not just a mothership UFO type thing, but something that will only die with 10 hits (explosions, boulders, etc.). Plus, spikes and electro tiles cannot affect it.
Like a boss level at the end of every world?

That's all for now.

Comments in bold.

This is the opposite of making things any faster, b-*tackled*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH BAH BLACK SHEEP!