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New Level (adv) - Beyond the Sink
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:02 pm
by bob roest
My last level, a sorrowful attempt at minimalism, didn't exactly go the way I wanted so to over-compensate I've made one with everything in it but the kitchen sink...hence the title (damn clever, don't you think?

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It shouldn't be too difficult, I hope.
The texture is 'OLDBOOK', thanks Loirae!
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:20 pm
by angi-no e
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:09 am
by Amnon
It shouldn't be too difficult, I hope.
You must be kidding!
Well, collecting the generous amount of coins was not difficult, but I worked on the exit for quite a while, playing acrobatics with my zoo, so much that the first time I got through, I was beaten by the clock just before the exit, then I got better and made it in time.
It is one of the best and great fun!
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:35 am
by bordeaux
Bob,
This is a fantastic level

I also struggled with the exit until I realized a mistake I was making at the very beginning
For a level with everything but the kitchen sink there were plenty of ways to go down the drain
Thanks
Michelle

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:38 am
by Amnon
Michelle, what was your mistake in the very beginning?
(I managed to finish it, but the end was not simple at all)
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:55 pm
by Lillie
I can't get behind the metal box to push it down over the tramp - am I on the wrong track please?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:58 pm
by Amnon
Lillie, You need to use the third dimension to get there... JUMP!
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:17 pm
by Lillie
Thanks Amnon -
but I don't have and can't get the conveyor going again!
Maybe you could pm me some help please so as not to post it on here - thanks very much

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:34 pm
by Liz Mayhew
I pushed the box OK but then got stuck, unable to get onto that second transporter. If I go the other way round I can't get the conveyors started to make the necessary jumps.
Stuck, but I'm not surprised!
Excellent puzzler so far Bob - easy! No way!

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:36 pm
by Amnon
Liz, what do you mean by "the other way round"?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:12 pm
by Amnon
OK, Lillie and Liz - I did it your way too (first going down and left).
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:45 pm
by bob roest
Some help with the start:
The ice cube is designed to hold the chomp on the red button, after that get the coins in front of the warp gate and head counter-clockwise.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:17 pm
by Lillie
I need help with the end - not the start thanks! Here is where I am stuck - Amnon (bless him he has been so patient with me

) tells me to go through the blue TP but I just end up on the blue timer switch and get sphered!
Help please Bobster

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:04 pm
by bob roest
Never, ever go through the blue tp, that's for spheres only!
Take the raft by the sign and collect the coins scattered around that pool, do not step on the break-tile above the conveyor by the exit gate.
Now raft over to the red button area and take the other raft over to the start area, you must time this right, when a blue sphere goes through the tp raft down, step right and slide down, the next sphere will land on the stop button.
Ta-daaaa, you're done!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 pm
by Amnon
Lillie, according to the picture you have ALREADY crossed the blue TP, but somehow your way back is blocked, so you used that break-tile too much.
In any case, you can still win from this position, but it is a bit long.
Bob, there are at least 3 distinct ways to complete this level - you are describing the one where the break-tile above the exit is still unbroken, but in the given picture that tile is already gone, so it is not as easy to reach the exit.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:18 pm
by kiki
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:30 am
by bob roest
Amnon wrote:Bob, there are at least 3 distinct ways to complete this level
Really? Well, that's cool!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:09 am
by rescuefire
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:19 am
by Amnon
Rescuefire: A warp gate is where new monsters are born - once there are no more monsters of that type, 4 new ones emerge from the warp gate.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:03 am
by Lillie
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:23 am
by Amnon
Well, that is one way to do it - let's summarize the 3 different paths:
I. Do the quick move in the beginning, so the tile above the exit is stepped only once, then go all the way counter-clockwise, take the missing coin - oops, the bridge is gone, but we can change transporters and (using a blue ball to stop the conveyor) go to the exit via that tile which is still there.
- That's Bob's intended way!
II. Start clockwise (down and left), float around taking some critical coins, go back to the beginning, do the quick move, go all around counter-clockwise, but since the coins by the warp-gate were taken, need to cross the break-tile by the blue gate only once, so later it is very simple to take the last coin and return the same way. Go through the blue TP to get back to where you left the transporter.
That's Liz and Lillie's way.
III. Same as I, but no quick move, so the break-tile above the exit is broken. We then have all the coins, but are stuck with the other transporter, the animals, the ice cube and the active blue TP. From there it is tedious, you need lots of patience with the animals, but it is doable.
- That's how I solved it originally.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:50 pm
by bob roest
Tramp down, go up and push the cube and quickly step down over ice again
Lillie, follow the cube closely over the tramp the timing shouldn't be that tricky and have Loof tramp back right once, don't go back down over the ice.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:37 pm
by rescuefire
Finally got this one! Thanks for telling me what a warp gate is

I always called them zbot or chomper or boomer generators in my own little head LOL
I kept going down first and never could get to that yellow gate coin. Finally changed direction and got out.
Brilliant stuff Bobster and loads of fun to figure out

Thanks!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:46 pm
by annedanner
Well, by gum, I got this one finished - but not without reading the board. Talk about finishing backwards!! Thanks, Bob. Great level!
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:49 am
by wonderfull
All I have to say is

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and finally
(Good one Bob)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:21 pm
by Lillie
Finally I did it!

<<slaps herself on the head with a big fish!>>
It was that first jump that was killing me - finally got my timing right and the chomp stayed alive! And so did I!
This was a really cool level Bob - very clever and most enjoyable!
Muchos thanks Bobster!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:19 am
by uneekrose
That first jump got me also, kept killing my helper. Kept messing everything up so I set this one aside for awhile, came back to it just now and after about a dozen or so tries finally made it all the way thru and each time that little bugger stayed on the red button like he was supposed to. this was fun, worked like clockwork all the way thru once I got going. thanks Bob.....