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I need help...How to making swiming watering adventures in W

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:46 am
by bround
A. how to making swiming watering adventures in WA? understand? please reply! Please Reply and Help!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:33 pm
by tyteen4a03
That's impossible in WA.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:41 pm
by jdl
I think he means walking in water. It is used in the sewers, its in the room where the adventure "To Catch A Thief" is.

Its also in an adventure where the buttons are underwater and you can't see them.

If that is what he means, then I don't know how to do it, sorry! I think you set the water logic to floor, and raise the Xtrude.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:48 pm
by Blast!10
Yeah, I don't think it's possible, but I can't check it anyway =(

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:31 pm
by Qloof234
I would check but I don't understand a single thing that bround means, and trying to read broken English gives me a headache.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:51 pm
by Nobody
Qloof234 wrote:I don't understand a single thing that bround means, and trying to read broken English gives me a headache.
How do you make levels where you walk in water (i think)

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:29 pm
by mqdar
Bround means something like, "How do you make adventures that you can 'swim' in?" I think he uses a translator. He said "watery," so he must mean "walking on water." Yes, that is possible.

Let's say you have a maze with 0.0 floors (Xtrude) and 1.0 walls. You want the water to be touching you, simulating a flood. You can do two things, the second one being more efficient and in some other cases, better-looking:

1. Raise the water for the floor tiles by adjusting WHeight so that it is just above ground (default setting -0.2, wanted setting something around 0.3). You'll see the water above the floors in the editor. Adding the walls will give the effect (otherwise it looks like the water is floating).

2. Make the adventure normally, acting as if it was just a maze. Then, cross out every tile setting except WHeight (put the mouse over a property and press Enter/Return). Note that the tile textures and the water texture are also properties. You'll see "Not Used" when crossing them out. Set WHeight to something like 0.3 and press "Wipe." Now the walls have the same water height. I don't think you would notice it when you play the adventure, but in some cases, like walking on walls, (as seen in the sewers in WA) if you don't also make the 'walls' have the same lower water height, you'll see water in them. It looks very awkward.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:43 am
by bround
Sorry, mrx, I follow and The Ice NOT Sliding, The Ice changed to floor :D

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:14 pm
by tyteen4a03
Make a water texture,and use the texture instead of water tile.

Or...HEX :twisted:

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:30 pm
by mqdar
tyteen4a03 wrote:Make a water texture,and use the texture instead of water tile.

Or...HEX :twisted:
I think hexing is a lot harder in WA. I opened up a test level in Notepad++, and the hex was impossible!

Anyway, why has bround gone ridiculously off-topic? :? :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:45 pm
by jdl
Mqdar, can you make individual water tiles raised?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:23 pm
by mqdar
jdl wrote:Mqdar, can you make individual water tiles raised?
The whole point in my previous post of having two ways of approaching the water problem was that every individual tile's water height (you're saying "water tile") is adjusted seperately. :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:32 pm
by jdl
Ok, because I'm going to raise the water in my Fire Island 5 level. Check the Custom Advs. forum. :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:17 am
by Qloof234
mqdar wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:Make a water texture,and use the texture instead of water tile.

Or...HEX :twisted:
I think hexing is a lot harder in WA. I opened up a test level in Notepad++, and the hex was impossible!

Anyway, why has bround gone ridiculously off-topic? :? :roll:
Now I wanna open one up in Context... BRB.


Uhhhh.. Never mind... It's not very possible or doesn't look it at least.

Yeah, I've looked through around dozen of the files and until someone "cracks" the level format, it's not gonna work.

For the heck of it I'm gonna look at the Beta test level.

HOLY CRAP, the level format is Hard-Coded beyond belief. Who's willing to bet Pat did this so we can't Hex-Edit it until we accidently crash it? :lol:

Also major lol at the second area's coding in the Beta level:

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:25 am
by bround
hmm, Thanks! Thanks your helps wonderlanders! I love to swiming adventure to editing! Thanks guys!

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:13 pm
by tyteen4a03
...and thanks bround for giving us loads of guessing games LOL

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:15 pm
by bround
:roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:19 pm
by tyteen4a03
[size=0]He is a little kid so he don't know how to read this text DX]

So we get a little kid who don't use English property.That why I say he posted loads of guessing games.LOL
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:14 am
by ben-09
:lol: LOL

I know brounds a little kid.He said he it himself.he said he was 6 :lol:

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:15 pm
by bround
ben-09 wrote::lol: LOL

I know brounds a little kid.He said he it himself.he said he was 6 :lol:
hahahaha! and im 6 age little kid!

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:01 pm
by jdl
How do you simulate walking on walls???

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:28 pm
by mqdar
jdl wrote:How do you simulate walking on walls???
Well, it's just the inverse. When I got the editor, I really wanted to work it out. When you come to the end of my explanation, you must know that the same thing can be done with objects, like mushrooms. :shock: Did I tell anyone I was the WA Editor Master (WAEM)? :P

To simulate walking on walls, you need to lower the normal floor tiles and the normal water tiles. The water tiles will be very low, so if you want an adventure where you step on an arrow to get on the walls, if there is water in the level, make sure that it is not too deep.
When you make the walls, they are at ground level (above the floors lowered to, e.g, -1.0).
You could say that this is a bit 'unnatural' for the editor. You cannot rely on the presets. You'll need to create original tiles, adjusting the textures of course.

Is that clear now? :)

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:31 am
by bround
mqdar wrote:
jdl wrote:How do you simulate walking on walls???
Well, it's just the inverse. When I got the editor, I really wanted to work it out. When you come to the end of my explanation, you must know that the same thing can be done with objects, like mushrooms. :shock: Did I tell anyone I was the WA Editor Master (WAEM)? :P

To simulate walking on walls, you need to lower the normal floor tiles and the normal water tiles. The water tiles will be very low, so if you want an adventure where you step on an arrow to get on the walls, if there is water in the level, make sure that it is not too deep.
When you make the walls, they are at ground level (above the floors lowered to, e.g, -1.0).
You could say that this is a bit 'unnatural' for the editor. You cannot rely on the presets. You'll need to create original tiles, adjusting the textures of course.

Is that clear now? :)
what?

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:38 am
by mqdar
bround wrote:
mqdar wrote:
jdl wrote:How do you simulate walking on walls???
Well, it's just the inverse. When I got the editor, I really wanted to work it out. When you come to the end of my explanation, you must know that the same thing can be done with objects, like mushrooms. :shock: Did I tell anyone I was the WA Editor Master (WAEM)? :P

To simulate walking on walls, you need to lower the normal floor tiles and the normal water tiles. The water tiles will be very low, so if you want an adventure where you step on an arrow to get on the walls, if there is water in the level, make sure that it is not too deep.
When you make the walls, they are at ground level (above the floors lowered to, e.g, -1.0).
You could say that this is a bit 'unnatural' for the editor. You cannot rely on the presets. You'll need to create original tiles, adjusting the textures of course.

Is that clear now? :)
what?
Umm, do you really think I"m gonna say all that again? :lol:

It's not very complicated. Just read through each little part and make sense of it. :wink:

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:46 am
by bround
mqdar wrote:
bround wrote:
mqdar wrote:
jdl wrote:How do you simulate walking on walls???
Well, it's just the inverse. When I got the editor, I really wanted to work it out. When you come to the end of my explanation, you must know that the same thing can be done with objects, like mushrooms. :shock: Did I tell anyone I was the WA Editor Master (WAEM)? :P

To simulate walking on walls, you need to lower the normal floor tiles and the normal water tiles. The water tiles will be very low, so if you want an adventure where you step on an arrow to get on the walls, if there is water in the level, make sure that it is not too deep.
When you make the walls, they are at ground level (above the floors lowered to, e.g, -1.0).
You could say that this is a bit 'unnatural' for the editor. You cannot rely on the presets. You'll need to create original tiles, adjusting the textures of course.

Is that clear now? :)
what?
Umm, do you really think I"m gonna say all that again? :lol:

It's not very complicated. Just read through each little part and make sense of it. :wink:
No, And What?

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:23 am
by mqdar
What do you mean? What what? (Oh no. It's getting more confusing :lol: )

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:35 am
by ben-09
bround, this effect may be too complicated for you.
if you dont understand how to do it,dont do it. :)

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:16 pm
by Nobody
couldn't you just make the floor higher than the walls? (i haven't exactly cone anything with the WAE :P )

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:06 pm
by mqdar
Nobody wrote:couldn't you just make the floor higher than the walls? (i haven't exactly cone anything with the WAE :P )
No, because 'you' (your stinker) always start at height 0.0. The 'floor' must be 0.0. :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:40 am
by bround
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