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New Level -- Cave Of Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:12 pm
by Muzozavr
This resulted from a failed try to imitate a certain level-style: while this level doesn't look as close to "stuff randomly placed together" as I hoped, it does provide an interesting challenge.
There
may be more than one way to get the boulders in position, but I don't think so.
Enjoy!

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:34 am
by Mark
You are a maniacal genius!

Your evil side is here full throttle.

This cave is paved with revolutionary stuff.

And it always helps to know your style.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:38 am
by bob roest
Mark wrote:This cave is paved with revolutionary stuff.

Good. Then maybe you can tell me what the trick is.
I can free the chomper easily enough and that allows other events to take place but I can't make the exit there is still something blocking it and I assume the idea is to exit.
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:44 am
by Mark
bob roest wrote:Then maybe you can tell me what the trick is.

Yes, it is possible to exit. I just sent you a private message.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:00 pm
by bob roest
Thanks to some help from Mark I was able to finish this. I did make one small variation to his approach but the result is identical.
Some interesting moves here Muz and surprisingly simple once you realize the way...but then again that's always the real trick, isn't it.
Thanks for the challenge!
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:40 pm
by annedanner
Will someone give me a hint about how to play this. I'm not seeing the point of the level. Thanks!
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:32 am
by Muzozavr
The point of the level is to figure out how to remove the two boxes blocking the exit without blocking the way with something else.
This is the max I could give without giving away a much bigger part. If you still need help, I'll do so.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:31 am
by Marinus
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:34 am
by annedanner
Got 'er done! Thanks, Muzozavr, and many thanks to Bob for the hints.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:59 am
by kiki
I see what the boomer might be for and the chomp had a job too, me thinks!
I was able to release the chomp and lock it away and throw away the key.
Got er done without them critters.
Brilliant stuff Muz.
PS - Got two for the price of one.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:08 am
by Muzozavr
You mean you finished without using the chomper or the Kaboom?
... OK, nevermind, you truly are the king of boulders. How did you do that?!
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:39 am
by bob roest
Keeks, are you serious!!!
Please send me a PM and tell me how you managed it, I will never divulge a word.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:50 am
by kiki
Sent you both a PM.
I was able to do it my way again just to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
Boy what an evil level one could make using that trick.
I also did it your way Muz and its truly brilliant what you think of.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:33 am
by Muzozavr
You are 100% correct, kiki. I'll have to try that trick myself.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:21 am
by bob roest
Speaking of 'trying that trick', I hope you don't mind Muz but I'm going to use a variation of the
free the chomper move in my next level.

you okay with that?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:25 am
by Muzozavr
Of course you can.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:30 am
by Marinus
kiki wrote:Sent you both a PM.
I was able to do it my way again just to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
Boy what an evil level one could make using that trick.
I also did it your way Muz and its truly brilliant what you think of.

Kiki, I'm also very curious how you did this without the boomer. Would you please tell me too?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:29 pm
by phardgrave
Help!! Can you post a spoiler? Thanks

Cave of Stuff
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:37 pm
by doodlebug
I would like a hint also. Cant get the boomer out or the chomper.What is the trick. Thanks Annie
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:15 pm
by Muzozavr
The trick is to
Push both boulders at the same box so that they destroy each other as well as the box.
Let me know, if you need further hints.

Cave of Stuff
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:01 pm
by doodlebug
I tried that and they don't blow up they just block him in. Is there a certain spot you roll from so they will blow. I have tried from both directions and the same thing happens they just sit there. Thanks Annie
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:53 am
by Muzozavr
To do that succesfully, you must
use the teleporters. There's no other way to get BOTH boulders to land at the SAME TIME on the SAME box.
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:17 pm
by Muzozavr
Solution to "Cave Of Stuff":
First push the leftmost boulder down towards the bridge. Then push it up and step on the red button. As soon as the first box is broken, step off the button to destroy the boulder.
Without collecting bonus coins, push the bottom boulder up. Now push the upper boulder right-down-left-up-left-down.
Push the other (now upper) boulder right, up, and left.
Only now can you collect the bonus coins... but not all of them just yet. Leave the bonus coin below the left teleporter for even later.
Push the bottom boulder down, then quickly cross the ice tile upwards, and push the upper boulder to the left.
If done correctly, both boulders should launch themselves at the upper box and selfdestruct themselves, freeing the chomper.
Collect the last bonus coin, and push the remaining box at the yellow button. The chomper is slow, so using the teleporters you shouldn't have any trouble.
Lure the chomper below the bottom ice patch, and cross the ice upwards. Now walk to the right until the chomper is inside the Kaboom!'s hideout.
Once the Kaboom! walks outside of his lair, race to the red button, and stand one tile to the right of it. When the Kaboom! gets near the red gate, press the red button. When the Kaboom! is near the second box, step off the button to destroy the Kaboom! and the second box.
Lure the chomper out of Kaboom!'s lair, and stand one tile below and one to the left of the red button. Once the chomper is two tiles below the red button, simply go up and keep going up. The chomper will press the red button, temporarily opening the red gate and allowing you to successfully exit the level.
Alternatively, one can ignore both the chomper and the Kaboom! and try to destroy BOTH boxes with the left boulder before gating it. It is possible, but requires excellent timing. You still need something to hold the red button, so you can't skip the vast majority of the level.
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:08 pm
by phardgrave
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:53 pm
by Marinus

As I read your solution, it's a bit more challenging as I did.
I used the box for the red button
But now I did it also your way.

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:39 am
by Amnon
Yes, this is doable - thanks, but I still can't see how to do it Kiki's way without using the creatures.
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:23 am
by Muzozavr
As I mentioned in the spoiler, you can destroy BOTH boxes with the boulder and then gate it. It requires expert timing, but it's doable.
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:25 am
by Amnon
Thanks - I tried it early on, but it did not work, I probably did not persist long enough...