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New Level (Adv) - Nefarious

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:41 am
by Mark
It's been about year since I posted a level, so I might be a bit rusty.
This one is for Bob who inspired me with his new Conveyor series. :D

Have Fun! :wink:

I'm also using Popo's Walled Garden texture. MARK250

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:22 am
by annedanner
It's great to see you back, Mark :D :D

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:34 pm
by Liz Mayhew
Hi Mark!

So glad to see you back level making. I'm off to try this one now. :D 8)

See you in a few months I guess :lol:

Re: New Level (Adv) - Nefarious

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:04 pm
by L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3
Mark wrote:It's been about year since I posted a level, so I might be a bit rusty.
Actually, this level was posted only several months before. I still can't figure that one out. Well, I'm going to play now!

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:22 pm
by Amnon
Yay, I made it!!!

Mark is Mark - and this is a typical Mark!

Thanks!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:52 pm
by Liz Mayhew
LCD - I could only solve the last one when Mark helped me with the cannon puzzle. That was the key to that level.

Mark - needless to say this is a total enigma. The main problem is of course those flames by the black TPs. I just don't see how to send anything up there. So far I have managed to cover the white button and put something in the water below the ice slide/tramp combo, but I'm sure that's not right.

Still thinking ... :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:28 pm
by annedanner
Hey Mark,

I think I may be missing a trick with a barrel and the black TPs. Am I going in the right direction? I'm thinking that I need to
use the barrel going back and forth to be able to head the prism up to one of the flames.
Is that correct?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:48 pm
by bob roest
Anne, No, don't worry about the flames.

Great level Mark!

History is a good teacher and having played a lot of levels is helpful sometimes, especially when it comes to remembering some of the many unusual things that can happen...even when you're sure they shouldn't. :D

Still this took a good while to work out and I enjoyed it all the way.

Thanks

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:55 pm
by annedanner
Thanks, Bob. Will you please remind me about the trick?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:28 pm
by Mark
Thank you everyone for your comments! :D

Sorry L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3 that I never posted a solution for "All Summer In A Day".
It's been so long, that I don't remember. :?
Liz has a much better memory. Thanks Liz! :wink:

I'm not sure if there is more than one way to solve this one. :?
My tester, Marinus has been missing for many months now.

The "banking move" I created for "Genesis" was the inspiration for this outing.
When I saw it still being used in Bob's excellent "Conveyor Boy" I invented a variation for it.

Anne, you are on the right track about the combo jump.
Don't worry about putting out those flames.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:51 pm
by Amnon
I'm not sure if there is more than one way to solve this one.
My tester, Marinus has been missing for many months now.
I am positive that there is no other way!

Mark's Nefarious.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:43 pm
by VirtLands
As usual, it's a very hard level for me. Can't figure it. :)
Image

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:28 pm
by L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3
Ohhh dear. I've tried it, haven't gotten very far yet though. I'll get it............eventually.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:45 am
by Chip
Hi Mark

It was great to play a new level from you. :D
I only could make it reading Bob's hint about unusual things that can happen... Thanks for the fine challenge.

I hope you're fine. Please send a few rays of the Californian sun to our bitter cold Switzerland. :stinkycool:

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:55 am
by annedanner
This was fun to figure out, Mark. Thanks for your help, Bob. I haven't figured out how to not get shot by the cannon, but I will - eventually :)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:52 am
by Liz Mayhew
The above help re Bob's Conveyor Boy level doesn't help me at all.
Obviously I didn't solve that level the way it was meant to be solved because I never made any ice jumps at all. :oops:

Back to Nefarious: Now I know something is supposed to be sliding back and forth on the ice I have no idea how. If I try to use a barrel it blows up the prism. If I try to use a prism the same thing happens.

I'm out today so I have no more time to try.

Later ...

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:56 am
by Amnon
If I try to use a barrel it blows up the prism. If I try to use a prism the same thing happens.
True: Can you think of another blocker other than the prism or barrel?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:04 pm
by Mark
Liz Mayhew wrote:The above help re Bob's Conveyor Boy level doesn't help me at all. Now I know something is supposed to be sliding back and forth on the ice I have no idea how. If I try to use a barrel it blows up the prism. If I try to use a prism the same thing happens
Hi Liz,

The reference for "Conveyor Boy" is regarding a combo-jump off a moving object.
The moving object in "Nefarious" doesn't use a conveyor or ice, which is the reason I designed it.

The ice on the left side is to get the barrel where it needs to go.
Some flying is necessary for the barrel. :shock:
TP or not TP, that is the question... :?

There is just one object here that can bank the barrel without destruction.
Only time will tell. :wink:

Thank you for the video image of my level, Andy! 8)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:50 pm
by annedanner
Back, again. Thought I had it all figured out and just needed to stop getting shot by the cannon. Wrong.

With a bit more help from Mark, I went through the very scary exit. :shock: :shock:

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:57 pm
by L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3
AH!

That secret wall is the trick to everything. Maybe I'll get a bit further now.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:13 pm
by L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3
Ok, so now I know how to move stuff off the trampolines, but the barrel or prism always seems to be stuck on the black TPs. What do you do after this?

Help please.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:57 pm
by annedanner
So...it's not ok to have a barrel stuck in the black TPs??

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:07 am
by Amnon
but the barrel or prism always seems to be stuck on the black TPs. What do you do after this?
After this, Place a barrel below the trampoline so you can jump up 2, then down 3. There is something else to do before jumping, but I'll let you find it out youself.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 am
by Amnon
So...it's not ok to have a barrel stuck in the black TPs??
Who said?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:18 am
by L'Carpetron Dookmarriot 3
Yay! Progress! I managed to get to the cannon room, but after I kill the z-bots and the shadow stinker I just don't see what to do. I hope I did everything right. If I destroy the box, the cannon will always kill me before I have a chance to get the coins. I don't see any other way to complete it though. I hate to ask for more help, but I'm trying to beat this one.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:24 am
by Amnon
If I destroy the box, the cannon will always kill me before I have a chance to get the coins.
The cannon will not kill you if the gun-powder is wet

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:54 am
by Liz Mayhew
Made it at last! :D :D

Bob helped me out with the opening move which I was always getting wrong, and that move is crucial. And he confirmed that a few of my previous moves were right.

After that, many, many tries later I finally reached home. The z-bot area caused me lots of retries :twisted:

Mark - thanks so much for another pushing, jumping, sliding, enigma. :stinkyhappy:

Nefarious

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:03 pm
by doodlebug
Could I have the opening moves please. I know what needs to be done for it all but do not know how start to get it done.

Thanks

Annie

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:53 pm
by Amnon
Opening moves:
Down into secret wall, right, up over trampoline, push barrel left (bonus coin) push barrel down over ice then right 3 places, come around and push it up, then left onto ice and trampolines and QUICKLY push prism right.
Then replace timer with prism, then bring remaining barrel all the way down next to button and gate, then jump...

Nefarious

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:09 pm
by doodlebug
I spoke too soon I thought when I jumped I could get past the fire and use the box for the buttons but that did not work for me I still need to know how to get to the blue button and cover it. I know how to do the yellow dude part once I get my blue button covered.

Thanks

Annie