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New Level - Stinky's Space Spades
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:42 am
by TheoX
I've had a hankering for going back to my roots and making a 14x14 puzzler. Here is the fruit of my labor.
Hope you enjoy!

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EDIT: Revised to remove possible nasty-timing move. (it wouldn't help in the level anyway, but I didn't want to frustrate anyone)
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:47 am
by Amnon
Yes, I enjoyed this one. It took me 31 seconds and I didn't need that break-tile (but I still stepped on it to get the bonus coin).
Thanks!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:34 am
by Muzozavr
Well, it took me a bit longer, but yes, I still didn't need the breaktile. The more I look at the level, though, the more I start thinking that
was the intended way. I've been trying the "normal" path dozens of times now, I can't get the timing right. Try it and see.
EDIT: OK, I did get the timing right
once. It's still brutal, so good thing there was a shortcut.

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:39 pm
by Amnon
OK, I did get the timing right once. It's still brutal, so good thing there was a shortcut
I tried many times and couldn't, so I believe it wasn't the intended way to run like mad pushing the barrel up.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:03 pm
by Amnon
OK, I tried some more and finally made that move with the barrel. However, this way took me 50 seconds, so it has no advantage.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:31 pm
by TheoX
Muzozavr wrote:OK, I did get the timing right
once. It's still brutal, so good thing there was a shortcut.

Amnon wrote:I tried many times and couldn't, so I believe it wasn't the intended way to run like mad pushing the barrel up.
Whoops! I didn't mean for the side-by-side metal boxes to actually be able to dislodge; I should have kept them up one space like they originally were. They were intended as a red herring. I think I'm going to go ahead and revise this real quick. I don't want to frustrate people with a near impossible move (though it doesn't provide any advantage anyway). Sorry about that!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:51 pm
by bob roest
What the...
I keep coming up short, I can't cover both the red and the blue, I'm confoozled.
Edit: Never mind I realized where I was going wrong right off the top.
Good one, thanks!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:38 pm
by Mark
TheoX wrote:Hope you enjoy!
And enjoy I did.
I love the simplicity of your layout.
It's an excellent teamwork puzzle!
BTW: I played the revised version.
Like you, I prefer the 14 x 14 structure.
It's always a challenge to fit everything.
Thank you Theo!

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:08 pm
by TheoX
Thank you all for playing!
I set out with two small tricks in mind, the quick run at the beginning (where the cannon lags) and the mysterious chomper movement when Stinky bounces on the trampoline. I'm guessing that these tricks have been used in a level or two before since nobody was phased by them - if anyone remembers what levels use this, can they guide me to them so I can check them out? Sorry again to Muzo and Amnon who played the version where the annoying timing was possible with the barrel.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:30 pm
by Muzozavr
Nah, I did it the intended way the first time - I was just trying the timing move to see if it's possible and it was, but I knew it couldn't have been the intended way because of how ultra-difficult it is. Amnon also did it the right way (and speedran the level in 31 seconds!

)
Moving it one tile up should make the move completely impossible, you're right.
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:52 pm
by Amnon
OK, I've done the revised version, still 31 seconds.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:40 am
by TheoX
Amnon - I'm not surprised you got the same time, since the solution was the same!

Thank you for playing again!
By the way, Mark was nice enough to make a video solution for me. Here it is:
Video solution
This is very similar to how I solved it. I believe the bridge tiles on the left are actually not necessary, judging by Amnon's completion time. They were intended as a convenience and partial red herring, anyway.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:42 am
by Amnon
I believe the bridge tiles on the left are actually not necessary
Indeed I didn't use them.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:29 am
by Jutomi
I did do this, but...
not before watching the video.
Thanks for the level, though.

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:21 pm
by Chip
Hi Theo
Trick 2 was easy for me: I know it well, not because I'm using it but because I often have to prevent it in my own levels.
(Tramps and chomps together - what a horror!)
But I spent almost an hour to rumble trick 1, and it was so obvious...
Thanks for a great puzzle with an amazing solution.