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New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:08 am
by Lazy Loof
Abandoned creation of mine... please note that it is untested and may be impossible for humans of this era!
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:51 am
by Amnon
The level is possible, in principle: I had to remove the 3D to test it first.
Now when I find the time - and lots of it would be needed, I will finish this in the original 3D version.
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:07 am
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:51 am
The level is possible, in principle: I had to remove the 3D to test it first.
Now when I find the time - and lots of it would be needed, I will finish this in the original 3D version.
Good luck with that! Yes, the non-3D version is possible. I'm adding it here for testing. (use model with my previous post)
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:23 pm
by yuenlungwong
It really takes a lot of time
3D levels make me dizzy. Is it just me?
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:29 pm
by Lazy Loof
yuenlungwong wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:23 pm
It really takes a lot of time
3D levels make me dizzy. Is it just me?
Listen to the real truth: they make me even dizzy. I was able to solve the non-3D easy enough, but 3D one is quite challenging.
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:20 am
by Amnon
I'm still struggling to get it done without CTRL-X, it's just a case of memorizing where all the coins are. Actually, I did finish it this way, but not with gold.
In any case, the object puzzle is very nice, although it is possible to complete this level without the secret chamber.
Also, there is a bug in the 3D, so if Stinky tries to follow the barrel through the TP, then the game engine breaks and what you see no longer corresponds with the terrain.
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:23 pm
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:20 am
I'm still struggling to get it done without CTRL-X, it's just a case of memorizing where all the coins are. Actually, I did finish it this way, but not with gold.
In any case, the object puzzle is very nice, although it is possible to complete this level without the secret chamber.
Also, there is a bug in the 3D, so if Stinky tries to follow the barrel through the TP, then the game engine breaks and what you see no longer corresponds with the terrain.
The secret chamber is just a secret. Yeah, the teleporter is not suitable for entering the secret chamber (you will have to use Alt+X to correct the terrain), there is another way to get into it.
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:05 am
by Amnon
there is another way to get into it.
Using the barrel of course.
Re: New Level (Advanced, impossible?) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:15 am
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:05 am
there is another way to get into it.
Using the barrel of course.
Yes, you have to use the barrel. What I mean was that there is another entrance to the secret chamber, just look around your starting point.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:22 am
by Amnon
there is another entrance to the secret chamber, just look around your starting point.
That's where the barrel falls, or am I missing something?
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:24 am
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:22 am
there is another entrance to the secret chamber, just look around your starting point.
That's where the barrel falls, or am I missing something?
Yes, but you don't enter there through a teleporter, there is a fake wall somewhere in starting point to enter the chamber.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:45 am
by Amnon
Oh, so that's what you call "secret chamber"? I thought you were referring to the teleports area.
I know about the timer-treasure, it was easy to get there, so I didn't think it was secret, I thought that the teleporters were the secret - you can complete the level without them, without even solving the barrel puzzle.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:04 am
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:45 am
Oh, so that's what you call "secret chamber"? I thought you were referring to the teleports area.
I know about the timer-treasure, it was easy to get there, so I didn't think it was secret, I thought that the teleporters were the secret - you can complete the level without them, without even solving the barrel puzzle.
Uh-oh, you misunderstood. The teleports area is the secret chamber, but the entrance to it was a secret. If you still not able to understand, you can remove Aryan002m model and will get a simple entrance to the secret chamber. I think because of the model you are not been able to identify that fake wall. (note that you will first need to put barrel on teleporter and then come to this point)
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:05 pm
by Amnon
That's what I've done all along, but there is no fake wall anywhere near the model - you just step on the barrel once it is in the water.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:07 pm
by Lazy Loof
Model is actually the fake wall.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:27 pm
by Amnon
Oh.... I forgot to unzip the model!
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:24 pm
by Lazy Loof
Amnon wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:27 pm
Oh.... I forgot to unzip the model!
That is why I thought how you found the teleporter so easily, it was just hidden beneath the model.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:52 am
by Lazy Loof
Its one month since I released this level, is anyone able to get through it? Or the 3D level is very difficult.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:22 am
by cloudrac3r
Abandoned creation of mine... please note that it is untested and may be impossible for humans of this era!
This sentence, combined with your request for a spooky fake walls model, means I will not play this level. I love mazes in real life, but I was never a fan of them in Wonderland, and when you combine an untested, probably impossible level with totally unfair fake wall models, you get a monstrosity that I want nothing to do with.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:32 pm
by Lazy Loof
cloudrac3r wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:22 am
Abandoned creation of mine... please note that it is untested and may be impossible for humans of this era!
This sentence, combined with your request for a spooky fake walls model, means I will not play this level. I love mazes in real life, but I was never a fan of them in Wonderland, and when you combine an untested, probably impossible level with totally unfair fake wall models, you get a monstrosity that I want nothing to do with.
No problem.
It's really impossible for the first time. But if you got a map of it, that's it.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:03 am
by Lazy Loof
Hey, no one is able to complete the 3D version till now?
If that's nearly impossible, then the first completer of the 3D maze should be: THE GENIUS OF WONDERLAND (any other name to suggest?)
Waiting for someone's reply on this.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:14 pm
by rainbowmon
Wait. No one's beaten it yet?
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:16 am
by Amnon
Wait. No one's beaten it yet?
What's the point, after already playing it (by mistake) without the model and seeing what I should not?
And had I not seen what I should not, then this level would be unfair and not worth playing either.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:37 am
by rainbowmon
...Note to self. Download this level tomorrow morning, start up Google Docs, and make a map of this level as I go to solve it.
I mean, you can't say that's cheating. It's simply a matter of using the resources available, whilst not flat-out getting the answer.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:43 am
by Amnon
start up Google Docs, and make a map of this level as I go to solve it.
A paper page may come more handy, but there's already the RTW editor, you can find it all there.
But if you do want a fair challenge, do not download the model - it's difficult enough without it!
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:51 am
by rainbowmon
...I'll CONSIDER it. And I was going to say "grab a piece of paper" rather than "open up Google Docs," but I realized my terrible drawing skills would make things way more complicated unless I knew the size of the level in advance.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:21 am
by Amnon
unless I knew the size of the level in advance.
It's 80x75.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:45 am
by rainbowmon
...Okay, yeah, I am DEFINITELY not using paper for that.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:20 am
by Lazy Loof
A map is
absolutely necessary to get out of the maze. Its up to you weather you use the model or not, as people say that it is unfair. Anyways, a hint for those who want to play with the model.
SPOILER (HIGHLIGHT TO READ)
Nearby every floor other than the classic one, there is one fake wall model.
Good luck, rainbowgamer!
Hope that you will get GOLD in this one.
Also, I'll be glad if someone could add a map here.
Re: New Level (Advanced) - Very Impossible Maze
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:22 pm
by Amnon
impossible-maze.jpg
Also, I'll be glad if someone could add a map here.
Here goes...