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New Level (adv) - Outside the Square
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:32 am
by Loirae
This is for kiki, the boulder king. I was going to call it "Outside the Box" but kiki already used that title about 1000 levels ago.
Using the jade2 texture that was made for our joint level earlier this week.
Side note:While watching my son play through the tutorial levels of wonderland, I heard him reading about the bonus coins. It was something I'd forgotten after playing hundreds and hundreds of levels.
Bonus Coins are usually placed in areas containing additional challenges or puzzles. Any level can be completed without collecting the bonus coins, so players can choose to simply complete the level, or to get the "perfect" score.
In light of that,
all bonus coins are optional. There is a way to complete this puzzle without ever collecting even one. And then there's my way.

To get those coins, there is a little more danger or puzzling to be done.
I hope you like it.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:49 am
by kiki
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:05 pm
by wonderlandlover
While it is nice to have the bonus coins free for the picking, it's even better when you have to work for them.
This was a very interesting level, with the setup and solution. I enjoyed very much the visual, and working through it. Lots of fast fingers in this one!
Thanks!
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:33 pm
by Loirae
My guess is this one is a little hard to get going so here's a hint for any that need it:
Around the timers is a good way to start, but eventually, there is a different way to keep all the gates open. and that way won't include the conveyors.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:50 am
by drushing
This was tough Loirae! I had to work through each part several times before I was successful! Felt good to reach the exit and collect a gold star!
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:49 am
by Loirae
Thanks for sticking with it, Donna.
For others who've read the hints above and still need a nudge:
Kill the boulder and the metal box at the same time with the hidden barrel.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:43 pm
by dunc
excellent level! exciting or what??
i'm glad i didn't look for help on this one, i spent a good half hour on it yesterday and gave up, i'd decided i needed to keep something i shouldn't have, i came back today and tried something else and that was the hardest part done.......or was it?

one room was easy peasy, the rest simply weren't, the boulders confused me for quite some time mainly because i missed something a few times that i wouldn't have if OH's music hadn't been on so loud
loirae, it was interesting to read your comments about the bonus coins, on the original game and RTW and also secret worlds (yes i bought them all before i found these boards

) i never really used to bother with the bonus coins at all unless they were just there for the picking, i think it's different here though, i think that generally people think that they haven't really completed a level unless they get the gold star. i think that's to do with the fact that these levels are the creation of the posters rather than part of a big game sort of thing.
maybe that's just me though, you lot probably got all the bonus coins in the original games too

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:56 pm
by Lillie
dunc wrote:maybe that's just me though, you lot probably got all the bonus coins in the original games too

Not all of them Dunkin

Anyway, you must be good at this because you have completed this stinkeroonie
Loopity - I have found the barrel. I can smash the boulder - then the boulders all come at me from N, S, E and W and I don't have a cooooooolooooooo (just incase you are missing some o's

) what to do next
Hey-elp please

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:13 pm
by TASHA
I'm with you, Lillie.....I don't have a coooolooooo either. I know that Loopy Loray said to destroy the metal box & the boulder with the barrel but I can't do that either

I can destroy one but not both & I've tried everything (obviously everything but the right thing). Help....pleeeeeze.
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:53 am
by Loirae
Sorry it was so hard, guys.
To kill the boulder, box, and barrel:
whne you're ready to smash the boulder, put the metal box right in the middle of the square (under the red timer) go up and get the barrel and just after the boulder passes, push it straight down so it lands right of the metal box.
The bolder will hit it and all three explode.
Hope the rest isn't so swful.
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:13 pm
by Lillie
Loirae wrote:whne you're ready to smash the boulder
Does that mean we have to get the boulder going round the inner conveyor first? If you push the barrel down to the right of the metal box, the boulder is still circling around the outside and it doesn't smash the boulder or the box
Anything else we have to do before we do that bit please?
Sorry to be so dense Loopity - I am just not seeing this one
Thanks

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:25 pm
by Loirae
Here it is. No spoiler text since I think this one mustve been off the stinker scale. Sorry to everyone.
OK, first, get the coins
Next, after the boulder goes by, push the metal box up onto the purple timer and run around left and stand in the hidden wall up and to the left of the box. The boulder will stop in front of you. Push it down and it starts going on the inner circle of timers. At this point, if you won't be getting the bonus coins, get the four coins on the TPs, or if you're going to make a try for the bonus coins, you can do it now or get them later.
then push the box into the middle and follow the rest of the directions above.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:09 pm
by Lillie
OK Loopity - I am sorry to have been so dense - I have finally been able to almost finish this cracker! The effect of the timers is knockout
Alas, I am struggling with the sphere's at the mo, but have managed to complete all the other sections

I haven't had much chance to play today - but promise to give it my fullest attention after I have made my meatballs
Will get back to you with my gold star asap

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:24 am
by Lillie
YEE HAAA!!!!!! I dangy did it
WOW Loopity - you certainly excelled yourself with this cracker

What a level

Very clever and very dangerous and very brilliant! I am so pleased to have completed it. Even with your clue's it was pretty risky and hard ya stinker
Loved it - very well done

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:33 am
by Loirae
YAY Lillie!!!!! And to all those who finished, thanks for sticking with it.
To all those who gave up, I'm really really sorry.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:23 am
by Lutz
Thanks for the walkthrough, Loirae. Otherwise I wouldn't have done it because I never found the fake wall on the left
Once getting the boulder machine started it was fun puzzling room by room. Liked the box/ice part most and found the spheres room the hardest.
Thanks for a great and fun level

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:48 am
by bob roest
I really wanted to get this one done before beddy-bye, but that was proving very difficult. This was really a piece of work and I was trying a number of different approaches to make it go. Your tip about the fake wall to the left was very helpful!
BTW After I stopped the boulder I just pushed the box into the red gate and let it blow up, saved a few steps
This was amazing, thanks for the
GOLD STAR Loirae!
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:35 pm
by wonderlandlover
I was reading through this thread, and I didn't even know there was a barrel, or a false wall. I just destroyed the boulder by pushing the steel box in the way. Then the generator started, causing 4 boulders to come, which crashed into each other, just after passing the timers.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:56 pm
by uneekrose
I wouldn't have gotten this level if not for the hints. I managed to get all but the bonus coins in the red sphere room. I'm really bad at those spheres and I'm one of those that likes to get it all............Can anyone help a gal and a stinker out on that room. thank you.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:01 pm
by Deletrea
Says Loirae, and
not Deletrea:
Sure. Here's how I did the red spheres.
go to the farthest right sphere and take the coin out from under it.
go back to the farthest left sphere and push it down.
push the left sphere back up (this will get rid of the middle sphere which was a red herring)
push the remaining sphere left to the wall, then up into the water.
Thanks for sticking with it.
EDIT: I posted this using my sister's somputer and her auto-log on has me posting with her name. So sorry. So, this is not from Deletrea, only from her computer. It's from Loirae.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:29 pm
by uneekrose
Thank you so much Loirae.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:54 pm
by Amnon
Well done Loirae for this excellent level.
Now I have another gold coin.
One point: destroying the metal box is much easier: just place it within a gate and wait - the gate will close on it.