Help with activating objects?

[yarjor]

I have used MyNameIsKooky's powerwop to add active parameter to objects such as ducks, bookshelves, scritters dragonturtles etc.
I added commands to the level to toggle them, but the commands don't appear to do anything. When I set them in the editor to be inactive, they still appear in the player.
What is wrong? What do I do?

[Qloof234]

Some objects just don't cooperate properly with activation/deactivation. As far as I know, there's not much that you can do.

[Pawelec]

Let's use a Bookshelf as an example.

The workaround I use is to make a copy of Bookshelf WOP, renamed to Bookshelf Gate. Then I open WOP Editor, click on 'Enable common adjusters', then enable 'Type' field and set its value to 10, then enable Data0 and Data1. This way I have a fully adjustable Bookshelf acting as gate which can be activated via buttons.

[Jutomi]

That's pretty ingenious.

[MyNameIsKooky]

Objects need a non-0 ActivationSpeed in order to activate and deactivate. A non-0 ActivationType is also necessary. However, deactivation has no effects on some objects aside from visual changes.

Here's a list of the ActivationTypes:

0: Does nothing.
1: GrowZ.
2: GrowXYZ.
3: GrowXY.
11: Gate (default).
12: Bridge, sinks 1 unit.
13: Bridge, sinks 2 units.
14: Bridge, sinks 3 units.
15: Bridge, sinks 4 units.
16: Bridge, sinks 5 units (default bridge movement).
21: Fade.
31: Cage.
41: Dungeon Door.

[yarjor]

Objects need a non-0 ActivationSpeed in order to activate and deactivate. A non-0 ActivationType is also necessary. However, deactivation has no effects on some objects aside from visual changes.

Here's a list of the ActivationTypes:

0: Does nothing.
1: GrowZ.
2: GrowXYZ.
3: GrowXY.
11: Gate (default).
12: Bridge, sinks 1 unit.
13: Bridge, sinks 2 units.
14: Bridge, sinks 3 units.
15: Bridge, sinks 4 units.
16: Bridge, sinks 5 units (default bridge movement).
21: Fade.
31: Cage.
41: Dungeon Door.

Thanks!
If I use fade, and the objects are activated from a command in a different wlv, will the animation play when I enter the wlv with the objects? Are will they be active by then? Wait, can you even activate objects from another wlv? The whole idea my hub's based on is shattering apart D: Though while writing this I actually had an idea to use if objects can't be activated from other wlv...

By the way, what do you mean by "Aside from visual changes"? What I need is to have my objects appear invisible until activated, most of them are either unreachable or have wall logic around them like the bookshelf. The obly other major thing here is that I need the ducks t be silent...

[Wonderland King]

What I need is to have my objects appear invisible until activated

Use command 41.

[yarjor]

What I need is to have my objects appear invisible until activated

Use command 41.

Wait, isn't 41 the duplication command? How am I going to use it here?

[Wonderland King]

What I need is to have my objects appear invisible until activated

Use command 41.

Wait, isn't 41 the duplication command? How am I going to use it here?

Put the object inside tall fake walls. When you need it "activated", duplicate it to wherever you need it.

[Jutomi]

If you want it the other way around, though, I have no idea.

I have even less of an idea as to that if you want it to be interchangeable.

[Wonderland King]

If you want it the other way around, though, I have no idea.

Command 5 might work, but it would have the explosion visual and sound effects.

[Wonderman109]

And CMD 5 would destroy the object, so you couldn't recover it. There isn't a teleportation command yet, unfortunately.