wonderland classic beta?

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:29 pm

was there ever an wonderland classic beta?
if there is an wonderland classic beta can I please see a pic of it.
or play it?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:39 pm

Buy the Midnight Synergy CD. On the physical copy there are some bonuses, including what seems to be a beta (or an alpha?) of the first Wonderland game. It's not feature complete (there are only a few levels) and, if I remember correctly, some of the graphics were weird placeholders, but it's playable and stable.

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:03 pm

Muzozavr wrote:Buy the Midnight Synergy CD. On the physical copy there are some bonuses, including what seems to be a beta (or an alpha?) of the first Wonderland game. It's not feature complete (there are only a few levels) and, if I remember correctly, some of the graphics were weird placeholders, but it's playable and stable.

Oh yeah, I remember that there was a prototype game of Wonderland on the MS CD. It's not bad!

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:06 pm

It will only run on certain operating systems though. I think it only runs on Windows XP and below.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:59 am

can I least see what it's looks like?

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:01 am

Caton wrote:can I least see what it's looks like?

Buy the CD and you'll see!

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:07 am

I know but is it that hard to just post a pic of a level of wonderland beta?

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:10 am

Caton wrote:I know but is it that hard to just post a pic of a level of wonderland beta?

Yes, because most of us either don't have the disc, don't have the time, or don't have a functional internal DVD drive in their computer, like I do, so I have to search for an external drive, connect it, run the game through a virtual machine and take a screenshot. Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:55 am

jdl wrote:It will only run on certain operating systems though. I think it only runs on Windows XP and below.

isn't made with blitz3d?

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:57 am

Caton wrote:
jdl wrote:It will only run on certain operating systems though. I think it only runs on Windows XP and below.
isn't made with blitz3d?

I suppose its engine (updated, of course) was used for the final game, so, it was probably made with B3D. Although I'm not sure if that's correct what jdl says, I need to try on Windows 7 eventually to see if it works.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:05 am

is the alpha version open source?

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:08 am

Caton wrote:is the alpha version open source?

No.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:11 am

can you make levels for wonderland beta?
or do I have to hex edit the .lev files?

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:12 am

Caton wrote:can you make levels for wonderland beta?
or do I have to hex edit the .lev files?

No.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:18 am

please somebody post a pic of wonderland beta please!!!!!!!!!!!

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:21 am

Shut up please! You're getting annoying!

No one has time to post a screenshot. If someone has the time and is ready to do it, they will post it here. No need to start just screaming. I know, I'm quite rude, but I do it so you can get the message, not because I hate you.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:39 pm

garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.

I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.

Kilicool64 · Post by **Kilicool64** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:23 pm

jdl wrote:
garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.
I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.

There was a screenshot included on the CD, but uploading it here would be copyright infringement. Also, from what I remember back when I still had a PC that could run the game, it actually disables the "Print" key and can't be run in windowed mode either, making it impossible to take screenshots.

It's a bit of a shame that it doesn't work on recent Windows versions though. I was looking forward to playing it again since I'm currently replaying the Wonderland series.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:50 am

Kilicool64 wrote:
jdl wrote:
garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.
I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.
There was a screenshot included on the CD, but uploading it here would be copyright infringement. Also, from what I remember back when I still had a PC that could run the game, it actually disables the "Print" key and can't be run in windowed mode either, making it impossible to take screenshots.

It's a bit of a shame that it doesn't work on recent Windows versions though. I was looking forward to playing it again since I'm currently replaying the Wonderland series.

can't you send pic in pm?

Koopson44 · Post by **Koopson44** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:22 am

You are an idiot

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:54 am

that was mean and very rude.
never say very mean things at members.

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:00 am

Caton wrote:that was mean and very rude.
never say very mean things at members.

I agree that Koopson shouldn't have insulted you, but you still should have been expecting it. I mean, you don't listen to anybody and you repeat the same question over and over.

Again, please understand that I am not insulting you just because you are you, I'm just struggling to give you the message.

Koopson44 · Post by **Koopson44** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:59 am

Caton wrote:that was mean and very rude.
never say very mean things at members.

just saying. You asked for something he told you he CAN'T give you. He told you that it would be illegal. You only read the things you like to see. In fact, you will probably ignore this message. Maybe if i said "i like you caton" you will read that.

Kilicool64 · Post by **Kilicool64** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:44 pm

Caton wrote:
Kilicool64 wrote:
jdl wrote:
garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.
I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.
There was a screenshot included on the CD, but uploading it here would be copyright infringement. Also, from what I remember back when I still had a PC that could run the game, it actually disables the "Print" key and can't be run in windowed mode either, making it impossible to take screenshots.

It's a bit of a shame that it doesn't work on recent Windows versions though. I was looking forward to playing it again since I'm currently replaying the Wonderland series.
can't you send pic in pm?

Umm, you are aware that asking someone to do something illegal is against the forum rules, right?

Sammy_P · Post by **Sammy_P** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:06 pm

Caton wrote:
Kilicool64 wrote:
jdl wrote:
garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.
I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.
There was a screenshot included on the CD, but uploading it here would be copyright infringement. Also, from what I remember back when I still had a PC that could run the game, it actually disables the "Print" key and can't be run in windowed mode either, making it impossible to take screenshots.

It's a bit of a shame that it doesn't work on recent Windows versions though. I was looking forward to playing it again since I'm currently replaying the Wonderland series.
can't you send pic in pm?

From the Midnight Synergy Games Collection page:

That's as close as you're going to get of a picture unless you just get the CD for yourself.

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:20 pm

Kilicool64 wrote:Umm, you are aware that asking someone to do something illegal is against the forum rules, right?

How is just posting the screenshot illegal? It's not as if you're redistributing the entire game.

garirry · Post by **garirry** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:54 pm

Qloof234 wrote:
Kilicool64 wrote:Umm, you are aware that asking someone to do something illegal is against the forum rules, right?
How is just posting the screenshot illegal? It's not as if you're redistributing the entire game.

It's because you only get the screenshot on the CD which is available for sale. It is impossible to get it otherwise, and as kilicool said earlier, it blocks the use of the "print screen" button, meaning that MS never wanted anyone to share this.

Caton · Post by **Caton** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:57 am

I made my own custom levels in the very old version of wonderland

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:14 am

jdl wrote:
garirry wrote:Besides, I'm pretty sure you can find a picture on the MS website.
I checked the Midnight Post issues, and as far as I know, there isn't a picture on the MS site or anywhere else online. Could have sworn I seen a picture at one point though.

As for the engine, I'm 90% sure it's still Blitz3D, maybe just an older version of it.

There are pictures in the Midnight Synergy Archives (I can't remember where it is, but it exists)