Coming Soon- Mofi Hub- MOMII (BETA OUT)

bround · Post by **bround** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:04 pm

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DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:44 pm

stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?

okay sure

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:51 pm

Qloof234 wrote:Hmmmm... I might be able to work on one of the crater levels.

Maybe you can describe how you want it to look though?

Imagine yourself in an giant crater, behind a town, formed by a meteor made up of a certain rainbow magic. The crater is mysterious, and each one is formed as an entrance to an underground tunnel, which is the last part of each level. Each level will be based on the rainbow magic the meteor is made of.

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:57 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?
okay sure

before i can start, can you describe the level so i can make it look like it as you want it to look like. not to be bossy

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:46 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
Qloof234 wrote:Hmmmm... I might be able to work on one of the crater levels.

Maybe you can describe how you want it to look though?
Imagine yourself in an giant crater, behind a town, formed by a meteor made up of a certain rainbow magic. The crater is mysterious, and each one is formed as an entrance to an underground tunnel, which is the last part of each level. Each level will be based on the rainbow magic the meteor is made of.

Ah, I see.

Which three still need to be done?

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sun May 31, 2009 1:44 pm

Qloof234 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
Qloof234 wrote:Hmmmm... I might be able to work on one of the crater levels.

Maybe you can describe how you want it to look though?
Imagine yourself in an giant crater, behind a town, formed by a meteor made up of a certain rainbow magic. The crater is mysterious, and each one is formed as an entrance to an underground tunnel, which is the last part of each level. Each level will be based on the rainbow magic the meteor is made of.
Ah, I see.

Which three still need to be done?

i really haven't even started any of them yet, but I guess Pow,Blink, and Floing.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sun May 31, 2009 1:47 pm

stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?
okay sure
before i can start, can you describe the level so i can make it look like it as you want it to look like. not to be bossy

In the level, you come past many puzzles, then, SHIVER TRIES TO FREEZE YOU, then realizes that you are not a ice thwart, and shows you the way to the star.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sun May 31, 2009 3:18 pm

BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:44 pm

i downloaded the zip, installed it, but where is the iconto play it???

bround · Post by **bround** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:53 am

stinky2 wrote:i downloaded the zip, installed it, but where is the iconto play it???

i dont know..

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:34 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.

You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:11 pm

cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.
You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.

nope, look into your C disk folder.

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:49 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.
You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.
nope, look into your C disk folder.

I did, nothing. I had tools to monitor exactly all the file changes made by your installer. All it did is to install the uninstaller in c:\program files\MOMII. Just zip up the files!

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:37 pm

cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.
You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.
nope, look into your C disk folder.
I did, nothing. I had tools to monitor exactly all the file changes made by your installer. All it did is to install the uninstaller in c:\program files\MOMII. Just zip up the files!

OOPS!

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:40 pm

cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.
You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.
nope, look into your C disk folder.
I did, nothing. I had tools to monitor exactly all the file changes made by your installer. All it did is to install the uninstaller in c:\program files\MOMII. Just zip up the files!

Uh.. its 86,476 KB!

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:18 am

Hmm, well, jdl's MOPI was "only" around 30 MB when zipped up.

I tried and find that zipping up the files for the full version of MOFI, minus the adventures and any player profiles, it takes 48.8 MB. So if you're getting almos twice that

, then there must be a lot of extra files you don't actually need:

1) Try removing all folders inside "GameData" except "Custom Content". By "removing", I mean move the folders out to some other temporary location outside of the main MOFI folder, then zip up the main MOFI folder, and then move the folders back.

2) If you're still way above 50 MB or so, you can definitely cut down like 10+MB by excluding the Data\Music folder from your zip file. But then you'll need people to copy that folder over from WA Editor themselves (or from MOFI if you're actually using the new music from MOFI).

bround · Post by **bround** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:03 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
cbloopy wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:BETA OF DEMO1 OUT. THIS IS VERY BUGGY BUT WHAT I HAVE ON MY MACHINE SO FAR. NOT FULL DEMO.
You totally messed up. The installer didn't install anything except an uninstall program!

I think it would be easier if you just zip up all the files you have and don't bother with the installer.
nope, look into your C disk folder.
I did, nothing. I had tools to monitor exactly all the file changes made by your installer. All it did is to install the uninstaller in c:\program files\MOMII. Just zip up the files!
Uh.. its 86,476 KB!

Well, sorry duncan, but installer didn't install the game........

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:51 am

cbloopy wrote:Hmm, well, jdl's MOPI was "only" around 30 MB when zipped up.

I tried and find that zipping up the files for the full version of MOFI, minus the adventures and any player profiles, it takes 48.8 MB. So if you're getting almos twice that , then there must be a lot of extra files you don't actually need:

1) Try removing all folders inside "GameData" except "Custom Content". By "removing", I mean move the folders out to some other temporary location outside of the main MOFI folder, then zip up the main MOFI folder, and then move the folders back.

2) If you're still way above 50 MB or so, you can definitely cut down like 10+MB by excluding the Data\Music folder from your zip file. But then you'll need people to copy that folder over from WA Editor themselves (or from MOFI if you're actually using the new music from MOFI).

no thanks, instead, i'm going to upload t on media fire, and have you unzip EVERYTHING!

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:11 am

Fine by me. Not the tactic I'll go by if you actually want to encourage other people to bother downloading it, but okay.

(For comparison, the installer for the full version of MOFI is only 41.3 MB. Even assuming that zip files don't compress as efficiently, your 86+MB clearly indicates a lot of duplicate/unnecessary files, unless MOMII is many times bigger than MOFI.)

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:38 am

cbloopy wrote:Fine by me. Not the tactic I'll go by if you actually want to encourage other people to bother downloading it, but okay.

(For comparison, the installer for the full version of MOFI is only 41.3 MB. Even assuming that zip files don't compress as efficiently, your 86+MB clearly indicates a lot of duplicate/unnecessary files, unless MOMII is many times bigger than MOFI.)

Okay, while I was figuring out how to load custom textures, I copied my custom textures OUTSIDE OF EVERY SUB-FOLDER IN "GAME DATA"! My question is: How the heck is my "Game Data" folder bigger than THE ENTIRE MOMII TOGETHER!!!!????
EDIT: Nvm, My unzipped MOMII BETA is abut 268+ MB unzipped, meaning that my computer DOES compress efficiently

because 1. the zipped version takes up less space than ONE sub-folder. and 2. the size is so massively reduced.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:41 am

double-post. link: here

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:46 am

Ok, I looked through your files. It turns out the 86 MB is not as ridiculous as it seems.

One main difference is that MOFI does not actually have some of the OGGs (music) from WA1/WA Editor, plus I noticed you added two new OGGs. That already accounts for about 8.5 MB (OGGs are already compressed so their size in a zip file is pretty much their original size).

After removing the "Player Profile" folder inside GameData, removing extra copies of level textures (except the ones inside GameData\Custom Content\Textures and Data\LevelTextures), removing the original MP3 you had before conversion, and removing extraneous programs (you don't need Editor.exe, Player.exe, MasterDatEditor.exe, and xvi32.exe, some of which are found in multiple places in your files), I was eventually able to get it down to about 63.5 MB as a zip file.

And the compression from zipping is apparently not as high as whatever compression is used by MOFI's installer, since the MOFI installer program is 41 MB, while zipping up those same files in Windows got me 49.8 MB.

So maybe a better program from zipping will help, but it looks like the minimum for MOMII will still likely be around 50-60 MBs. Oh well.

cbloopy · Post by **cbloopy** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:10 am

Finally get around to playing it. It's definitely a bit buggy, but not bad for a work in progress. I did find the ice thwarts/trolls shooting a bit way too fast for my taste in general, though not impossible.

Maybe if inspiration strikes one day, I could try contributing a level or two.

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:24 am

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?
okay sure
before i can start, can you describe the level so i can make it look like it as you want it to look like. not to be bossy
In the level, you come past many puzzles, then, SHIVER TRIES TO FREEZE YOU, then realizes that you are not a ice thwart, and shows you the way to the star.

i'll try to get some ice trols that shoot at you.. or cbloopy can make a .wop file for it

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:32 pm

cbloopy wrote:Ok, I looked through your files. It turns out the 86 MB is not as ridiculous as it seems.

One main difference is that MOFI does not actually have some of the OGGs (music) from WA1/WA Editor, plus I noticed you added two new OGGs. That already accounts for about 8.5 MB (OGGs are already compressed so their size in a zip file is pretty much their original size).

After removing the "Player Profile" folder inside GameData, removing extra copies of level textures (except the ones inside GameData\Custom Content\Textures and Data\LevelTextures), removing the original MP3 you had before conversion, and removing extraneous programs (you don't need Editor.exe, Player.exe, MasterDatEditor.exe, and xvi32.exe, some of which are found in multiple places in your files), I was eventually able to get it down to about 63.5 MB as a zip file.

And the compression from zipping is apparently not as high as whatever compression is used by MOFI's installer, since the MOFI installer program is 41 MB, while zipping up those same files in Windows got me 49.8 MB.

So maybe a better program from zipping will help, but it looks like the minimum for MOMII will still likely be around 50-60 MBs. Oh well.

The OGGs are there because one was removed, and another became unused due to replacing the file with the one from the editor.

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:33 pm

stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?
okay sure
before i can start, can you describe the level so i can make it look like it as you want it to look like. not to be bossy
In the level, you come past many puzzles, then, SHIVER TRIES TO FREEZE YOU, then realizes that you are not a ice thwart, and shows you the way to the star.
i'll try to get some ice trols that shoot at you.. or cbloopy can make a .wop file for it

uhhhh he already made one.

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:17 pm

DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:
DEEMAN223344 wrote:
stinky2 wrote:Can i work on the fotress level.. or is that alredy done?
okay sure
before i can start, can you describe the level so i can make it look like it as you want it to look like. not to be bossy
In the level, you come past many puzzles, then, SHIVER TRIES TO FREEZE YOU, then realizes that you are not a ice thwart, and shows you the way to the star.
i'll try to get some ice trols that shoot at you.. or cbloopy can make a .wop file for it
uhhhh he already made one.

oh, i see if i have it...

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:37 pm

OK, i have a bug to say.

in someparts on MOMMI, if you restart, die or finisha an adventure, it MAV's out.

DEEMAN223344: fix this for demo 2

bround · Post by **bround** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:50 am

In where Arcade Items and Laser Gates were. In all adventure if I die, finish an adventure. I got MAV.

bround · Post by **bround** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:56 pm

Nevermind. I will use MasterDatEditor to fix it.