Things that don't fit/deserve another topic (anything goes)

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:28 pm

MS locked it because Tyteen4a03 said that it should be locked.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:09 am

billy bob wrote:MS locked it because Tyteen4a03 said that it should be locked.

Not really. We only have a bit of influence for forums outside the new off-topic section. Besides, it does belong to the Wonderland Images topic.

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:51 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:
billy bob wrote:MS locked it because Tyteen4a03 said that it should be locked.
Not really. We only have a bit of influence for forums outside the new off-topic section.

MS would never make such a judgement without your influence. MS clearly saw your post and trusted your judgement on what thread the topic should be in, like he trusts you to moderate this forum. Besides, it doesn't even matter what MS did, you said that it should be locked.

tyteen4a03 wrote:...it does belong to the Wonderland Images topic.

The topic is not about the picture, the picture merely illustrates what the topic is about.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:36 pm

billy bob wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:...it does belong to the Wonderland Images topic.
The topic is not about the picture, the picture merely illustrates what the topic is about.

Then I think the conception (what google translate gave me) of the topic is too shallow. The topic just shows a single picture. In this case I think putting it in the Wonderland Images topic will not affect the views and/or comments the picture gets.

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:29 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:
billy bob wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:...it does belong to the Wonderland Images topic.
The topic is not about the picture, the picture merely illustrates what the topic is about.
Then I think the conception (what google translate gave me) of the topic is too shallow. The topic just shows a single picture. In this case I think putting it in the Wonderland Images topic will not affect the views and/or comments the picture gets.

The topic does not just show a single picture, I also explain how to display the glitch. That coupled with the topic's title shows that the topic is about a glitch involving Loopy, not about the image used to illustrate the glitch. Other users read the topic and understood that perfectly well.
It is unfortunate that you were unable to glean that understanding from what was written, but your lack of understanding does not justify you having a perfectly good topic locked.

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:47 pm

I think Billy Bob has a point because in the images topic someone could post another picture completely overriding the discussion on the glitch. In a separate topic, only the glitch is discussed. I'm not saying every single image should get a topic but that images topic is more for general things meant for short discussion. I think it has to do with it a bit to have a separate discussion than rather get it washed over by some random image of a rock about to smash a chomper or something. Also, it was completely valid topic in my case. Please excuse me while I go fall sick on the couch again, I'm not feeling very well.

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:53 pm

Off topic:Hope you get well. D:

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:00 pm

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:00 pm

boywhoflies wrote:Off topic:Hope you get well. D:

Eh, probably never will. I have been sick for like a month, we (my family) think I have mononucleosis, a viral disease I have to sit through.

Emerald141 wrote:And get well, SS01. D:

Thanks. :3

EDIT: Now that I'm reading some symptoms, the seem to match perfectly.

"Mononucleosis is a viral infection causing fever, sore throat, and swollen lymph glands, especially in the neck."

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:03 pm

StinkerSquad01 wrote:
boywhoflies wrote:Off topic:Hope you get well. D:
Eh, probably never will. I have been sick for like a month, we (my family) think I have mononucleosis, a viral disease I have to sit through.

Like, for the rest of your life?

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:05 pm

Okay okay, it was a hyperbole. I was trying to say that it has been pretty much a month and I still feel pretty down in the dumps. *starts switching to internet using tablet* Oh, yes, instead of a Christmas present, I have a Sony Tablet! I like it a lot, it has every thing I could ever need excluding basic life functions like food and water.

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:09 pm

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:17 pm

I will need a blood test tomorrow to see if I really do have mono. Hopefully I will only be out for a week maybe.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:40 pm

Emerald141 wrote:I also agree with BB in this case. The glitch was interesting and arguably topic-worthy, and just because a picture accompanied it, that doesn't mean the topic was about the picture. Must I say derp?

And get well, SS01. D:

You could say this or this or this interesting, but all of the authors did not open their new topic. Imagine that every picture that is interesting gets their own topic, the forum would have been flooded a long time ago.

Also, get well soon SS01

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:39 pm

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:22 am

tyteen4a03 wrote:
Emerald141 wrote:I also agree with BB in this case. The glitch was interesting and arguably topic-worthy, and just because a picture accompanied it, that doesn't mean the topic was about the picture. Must I say derp?

And get well, SS01. D:
You could say this or this or this interesting, but all of the authors did not open their new topic. Imagine that every picture that is interesting gets their own topic, the forum would have been flooded a long time ago.

Why are you qualified to judge what is topic-worthy and what is not?
And can you understand that a topic containing a picture is not necessarily a topic about that picture?
Qloof234 and ~xpr'd~ rarely intervene on this forum, and that is how a good moderator should operate. Intervention only when absolutely necessary. You have flexed your moderator muscle in an autocratic manner that is at odds with the easygoing spirit of this forum.
Whilst I do think we need moderators they should work more as a collective in order to find a balance in decision making. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And with Qloof234 and ~xpr'd~ taking more of a backseat it has left you holding the reins.
Tyteen4a03, I know you were only joking when you posted this, but with all the topics you're needlessly locking, it is starting to look less jokey! Please take a leaf out of the other moderators' book and let the forum run its own course for a fair and diverse discussion board.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:38 am

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:35 am

I'm feeling much better.

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:44 am

Yay!

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:45 am

Emerald141 wrote:I can see your reasoning on this for once, but my point still stands. Might I ask, what would you have done if BB had just explained the glitch and not attached a picture to go along with it? Would you still have slammed the topic as shallow and locked it anyway, or allowed it to remain since there was no topic that already discussed things like that?

I think I would lock the topic, since Wonderland Images's original purpose IMO was for discussion about images about Wonderland, including comments, reproduction methods and tips and tricks.

Welcome back SS01 :P

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:33 am

Hey guys, what's going on in this threa-- Oh. If you'll allow me to intervene...

MyNameIsKooky wrote:
Nobody wrote:I miss the days of xpr'd and Qloof being active.
They still come here, but they only seem to post in the My Little Pony topic and maybe a few select others...

I'm sorry, I wanted to use that image. Anyways...

Yes, I'm just kinda lurking these days. Reason is I don't really feel like I have much else to comment on in the community anymore. Not in that I feel unwelcome, but that I've not got a whole lot to contribute to in discussions.

So! The issue here, as far as I can tell, is that Tyteen locked the Random questions thread due to this thread's existence, and the userbase isn't exactly supportive of this decision, to put it mildly. Additionally, MS locked a topic by BB after Tyteen deemed it belonged in the Images thread. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

To impart my own thoughts; I'm not exactly sure what I would've done. While the thread wasn't a forum game, there's already this thread. At the same time, though, that would serve to clutter this thread even more. If this thread was more... comprehensible, for lack of a better word, then I would agree with Tyteen's decision. As-is, as far as I'm concerned, someone can go ahead and make another questions topic. So long as things don't get way off-topic, I have no plans of intervening.

As for BB's topic. I think we should have a General Glitch topic, like we used to (that did actually happen, as opposed to being a figment of my imagination, right?). However, we don't, so... Moving on.

To be perfectly honest, I don't think locking it was a bad decision. I don't think the correct argument is "It belongs in a different thread". What I'd go with is "There's not a whole lot of content". Yes, there's a picture and a short description of how to get the glitch to happen, but honestly, that's not a lot. It's kind of... empty, if you will. I mean, yes, I can still understand the reasoning behind why Tyteen locked it, but in my personal opinion, I don't think it was concrete enough (As StinkerSquad said earlier, if someone else posted a picture, then the topic could very easily switch to it).

The entire problem, as I view it, lies in the fact that everyone processes information differently. For instance, I haven't been using my moderator powers lately because I haven't seen any trouble happening around here. There have been a few dupe topics, but other than that, nothing major, which is why I've been watching from the sidelines for a while (There's also the fact that I'm swamped with schoolwork, but yeah).

It's half-past eleven right now, so I don't feel like elaborating more right now, but long story short, I can understand where both sides are coming from and I think that when it comes to stuff like this, there needs to be an agreement between users and moderators.

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:59 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote: Welcome back SS01

Nope, I have make-up work to do. Then I can come back.

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:49 am

Emerald141 wrote:Still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. For the billionth time, the topic wasn't about the picture.

And you should at least try to address BB's most recent post.

Like I said in my post (which absolutely no one seems to have even noticed), God forbid people analyze things differently, right? Oh wait, they do.

I don't agree with Tyteen's reasoning, but the logic's there. Accusing him of disregarding any information irrelevant to his isn't netting you any points. As much as I hate to resort to this reasoning (I'm a strong believer in equal rights), especially since he's a moderator.

I'm not trying to tell you "OGM MODS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT STOP TALKING ALL OF YU", that'd just be ridiculous. More along the lines of "Be respectful even if you're angry at someone". I don't mean you need to be polite to the point of lying; I'd even go as far as condoning sarcasm; case in point, this post. Just don't insult people without justifiable reason.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:48 pm

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:59 pm

*ahem* Sorry about that. The only reason I responded in such a manner is to demonstrate my point, honestly.

Having said that, I still stand by my point - Different people process information differently. We all see the same thing but glean a different meaning.

Even if that's not the issue here, there's no reason to intentionally be impolite, if you ask me.

That's all for now. Again, Emerald, sorry about that post of mine, the biting tone was really just for show as opposed to being mean.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:43 pm

StinkerSquad01 · Post by **StinkerSquad01** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:49 pm

I like how there's like 50 guests on.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:52 pm

There's been 40+ guests constantly on for weeks now.

Technos72 · Post by **Technos72** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:53 pm

If that were a youtube comment, I'd thumb that up

boywhoflies · Post by **boywhoflies** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:53 pm

45 now.