Invisible Game 4 Pages

SonicSpeed · Post by **SonicSpeed** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:13 pm

Sorry, no.

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:10 am

482?

(I'm fairly certain I got the numbers themselves correct... just the scrambling)

SonicSpeed · Post by **SonicSpeed** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:28 am

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:32 am

An old puzzle this time:

(x-a)*(x-b)*(x-c)*...............*(x-y)*(x-z)

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:05 am

Another one, this is too easy.

0
(........)*(x-x)*(........)

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:40 pm

this is too easy

You asked for it.

(This clue was SHIFTed)

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:43 pm

O?
Zero?

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:54 pm

For the old one yes.
The asked-by-Marinus-new-one-cause-old-one-was-too-easy however...

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:11 pm

I think: #6@8!)() without shift = 90

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:08 pm

I love hidden-in-post spoilers, I almost missed this one.

Correct, Marinus! You're free to make yours now.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:28 pm

I saw by coincidence your nice little puzzles but unfortunately I don't have an original idea to make such puzzle by myself

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:11 pm

Dammit, third one in the row? I really am running out of ideas... Uh, yeah:

Convert this color.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:20 pm

Converted!

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:59 pm

Wait, what?
You don't have a hidden spoiler in your post, do you? And these puzzles are NUMBER puzzles. So INverting the color to black won't work as CONverting it.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:02 pm

Muzozavr wrote:Dammit, third one in the row? I really am running out of ideas...

I'm sorry but I've not that creativity to think out a new puzzle. That's also the reason that I'm not really a levelmaker. But I think it's not fair that I'm doing nothing more then solving your puzzles and not posting a new one. So I have another puzzle, completely different. The answer is not a number but an explanation how. It's about logic.

Somewhere in storyland is a folk of very intelligent people. But there is no way they can communicate with each other. They only can communicate with their king. Their king gives them a puzzle to test their intellect. He says: "each of you has either brown or blue eyes. There is at least one with brown, and at least one with blue eyes. I come here everyday and the day you are sure you have brown eyes, step forward."

They have no things like a mirror or a camera or such. There is no way that they can see what colour eyes they have, not even in water or such. They only can see what colour eyes the other people have. But at certain day, all people with brown eyes do a step forward when the king arrives.

How did they know?
I think 16448250. fafafa in decimal numbers

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:18 pm

Nevermind then...

BTW, the code for black is:

jdl wrote:#000000

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:42 pm

16448250, the code for fafafa in decimal

Correct!

And yep, I also think it's a little unfair, so I'll now try to solve your puzzle.

An out-of-the-box solution:

They all make their eyes water, then look at the eyes of someone else to see the reflection.

The "normal" solution looks like an incredibly long chain of sequences that starts (or rather ends) with the momentn where if you see that everybody has blue eyes, you MUST have brown. Similarly, if you see one person with blue eyes and the rest with brown, then assuming he thinks as well as you, you must have blue eyes also, if you had brown he'd immediately figured out he has blue. It's hard to really figure out this without pen and paper, and I'm a bit tired at the moment, so I'll have to think on this later.

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:10 pm

Yes, you're right!

You didn't completely work out yet but the idea is correct.

And I've really no idea for another real puzzle except for such as: what's the chance you throw with a dice this or that. But maybe I remember something

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:32 pm

Case 1. If you see everybody with blue eyes, yours must be brown.
Case 2. If you see 1 person with brown eyes, then yours are either also brown, or that person sees everyone as in step 1 and immediately steps forward.
Case 3. If you see 2 people with brown eyes, then either yours are also brown or any of these persons sees it as in step 2 and immediately steps forward.
Case 4. If you see 3 people with brown eyes, either yours are also brown, or any of these persons sees it as in step 3 and immediately walks forward.

......

Case N. If you see N people with brown eyes, either yours are also brown, or any of these N people can see it as in step N-1 and immediately steps forward.

This may be wrong, or not complete, but it's the best I have for now and I'm really tired at this moment. (I'm pretty sleepy and had to solve a particularly cruel technical problem for the flac+cue format, cause Daemon Tools wouldn't mount the cue file. Eventually I found FLAC2CD and simply burnt it on a real CD. The thought was worth it, since it's some of the best music I've ever heard)

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:07 pm

What comes next? # $ ! $ % @ % ^ # ^ & !@ !# !) !# !$ !! !$ !% !@ !% !^

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:00 am

Correct Muzozavr, even when you're sleepy you're quite able to solve a puzzle!

The only thing I want to add to your explanation is the 'digital effect' (instead of the word: immediately) for the king asks each day or each time again.

In case there is one person with brown eyes: He/she knows the first time the king asks.

Case 2 brown-eyed people: They know the second time

Case N .... : they know the N-th time

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:12 am

Yep, and your way of explaining it is, IMO, simpler to understand actually.

What can you say about the out-of-the-box way? (There's another improvised mirror possible, but I don't think the king would like so much spitting

)

speegled, are you sure you didn't miss any numbers?
There are like two separate parts in this row and they both follow a particularly obvious logic, but between them is nothing but a sudden jump from one number to another with no explanation. (It's the 6 7 12 part)
Or have I missed something during "translating"?

Marinus · Post by **Marinus** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:40 am

I think your out-of-the-box-way is funny and nice found!

But not to be taken serious for I said: "There is no way that they can see what colour eyes they have, not even in water or such."

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:16 pm

Muzozavr wrote:speegled, are you sure you didn't miss any numbers?
There are like two separate parts in this row and they both follow a particularly obvious logic, but between them is nothing but a sudden jump from one number to another with no explanation

Every 11 numbers, you add 5.

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:46 pm

Answer:

21

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:08 pm

This number is higher than 780,but less than 900 and it's not even,it's odd.And it does not have a 5 or 3in it.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:56 pm

791?

speegled · Post by **speegled** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:04 pm

Higher.

jdl · Post by **jdl** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:19 pm

799 or 797!

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:42 am

801? lol