Spooky....

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:25 pm

Hello, I have just found something weird which you probably know but
just in case I am going to show you anyway...

If you want I could upload more weird tiles like that one (if your interested).

Just download the level and step on the break tiles twice.....

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:00 am

Very spooooooooky indeed.

That was cool! How did you make it? Did you hex edit it or place some object over it or what? Tell me, I'm curious!

Upload more weird tiles! That was interesting! Those break tiles just don't want to break. They must be afraid of heights!

Kind of off topic: Speaking of weird stuff, can anyone tell me how to edit the color of the boxes and stuff, like editing the .res files? I can't find anything about colors or RBG anywhere in them.

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:44 am

Okay then, I will tell you how I did it, your right, it was intirely hex-editing
Here is another one with some mysterious spikes which really rarely go
up ( I call them spike type 5 )....

Off topic: with the res thing, if you look in your return to wonder land folder they should be their... You can't acess changes of the res files in the game, but if you look in the RTW folder then their should be lots of res's

(sorry if you are still stuck)

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:20 am

I know where the res's are, but I want to know how to edit the colors of the objects and stuff in game (Unless you said the changes won't appear). Sorry to bug you.

Nice spoooooooooky level by the way!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:27 am

Hmmm, If you edit a res file with paint (for example) then you can mess with the colours and make it look different then save it with the same file name and make shore the extension is a DAT extension, now some where in the game some thing will look different...

(sorry if still stuck)

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:30 am

Ooh I get it now.

Thanks a million!

I can already picture myself making red conveyer belts and yellow Z-Bots!

stinky2 · Post by **stinky2** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:36 am

very spooky, billybob

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:41 am

Glad I could help...

Also tomorrow I might be able to post another spooky level!

(but z-bots are "non-custom-models", not res's, and you can't edit "non-custom-models"

)

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:46 am

Okay, I can't wait for the next spooooooooooky level!

About the .res files, does that mean I can't edit the enemies' colors?

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:01 am

It means you can't edit any objects, only tiles

(at least I think so)

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:03 am

Meh, that's what I thought at first. Oh well, that still works to make some EVIL pictures with the floors.

And those type 5 spikes are more like type 10 spikes!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:14 am

MyNameIsKooky wrote:Actually, I think I saw a picture of a lava cube once.

Yes, because thats a tile not an object...

(see picture)

The cube is in the second lowest section, which is at the tile section...

Everything in the red circle is tiles.

Everything in the blue circle is objects.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:16 am

Ooh ok. I edited it at the same time. Ooops.

Thanks for all the help!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:26 am

Heres another spooky!

The canons don't fire! (Well they do fire but the fire doesn't go forword.)

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:35 am

Sorry for double posting but I have another!

You can walk on nothing!

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:35 am

Those are some nice and interesting spooooooooky levels!

I thought I had the res files, but I still couldn't do it.

About the res files, I try to open them with paint but it says that it doesn't support the file type. I tried renaming their endings with .bmp and .jpg but that didn't work either, it just came out blank. Do I just make a new paint file, draw all over it, then rename it in place of one of the .res files?

(Sorry that i'm so stupid about the res#.dat stuff.

)

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:39 am

Hmmm, some of the res files are audios...
So you might have picked one of them, try some different ones, say if it works after then.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:42 am

I tried res1, I checked in hex and it seems to be for lots of files.

I'm going to try other res files. I'll edit this in a second.

Edit: YAY! IT WORKS FOR THE OTHER ONES!

Thanks a million!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:44 am

YAY!!!

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:50 am

"Hey, look what I made! It's a white conveyer!"
"It's a res edit, you didn't make it!"

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:52 am

Wow!

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:55 am

I should post some of those in the "Wonderland Screenshots" thread.

Anyways, back on topic about spoooooky things in Wonderland! The spookiest thing I can make is a Chomper coming out of a wall, Which isn't very spooooooky!

EDIT: Good night! See you tomorrow! Thanks for all the help!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:40 am

(Hello again)

Actually its not just tiles you can change you can change other stuff as well like: the menu title (res 51 and 50 I think), or all the sparks that fly out
when dead, or even the textures and backgrounds can be changed...

(Hmmmm, that reminds me, is the colour of Stinky's hat the same colour as the dark blue teleport? I think it might be.)

Thinking about it, their might be a couple of objects you can change....

And if you make a copy of your changed res files and save the copy as a jpeg file you can upload it and other people can download it (and they can change it to DAT files again).

Anyway: SPOOOOKY stuff!

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:57 pm

(Hi again!)

Ya, I saw the menu, loading screen, letters, particles, some textures, and some other stuff I couldn't recognize when I was poking around the res files. I think I saw something that looked like a plasma box texture when I looked around the res files. Either that or the texture for water... Or both.

I'll experiment with it in a little bit.

Also, I have some of the basic hex knowledge for hex-editing some stuff. I haven't hex-edited any of Wonderland yet, but I'll experiment with some values in a little bit. Though I bet I'll get a lot of MAV's if I do something wrong.

I'll see if I can make any spooooooky stuff with some Hex.

Edit: Woohoo! I made some weird tiles with hex!

1st level: Push the box onto one of the blank tiles and see what happens!
2nd level: Walk onto the blank tiles.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:22 pm

I noticed that "Kooky" rhymes with "Spooky". Coincidence.

Anyways, step on the empty tiles to die!

This level has death tiles!

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:25 pm

WOW!

I was wondering what all those blank tiles were up to....

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:26 pm

They are evil blank tiles, I guess.

But they are not that good compared to yours.

EDIT: Want to make a list of all the hex-edited weird tiles that we know so far? I mean, like say what the hex is for it then say what happens when you interact with the tile in-game?

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:41 pm

Hmmm, we could!

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:58 pm

Okay! I'll start the list! (Try to put it in hexadecimal order and add to this list by copy and paste and make the ones you add in bold.)

If this gets long enough we could make a new topic with this list in it then we could get a sticky on it!

One quick hex question for you: The object hex numbers always come after a few 0's most of the time, right? Are the 0's for value and behavior, or what? Could you tell me what the three numbers after the object number means?

Anyways, here goes...

2C 02 - Appears as an empty tile. Acts like a conveyor that is facing up.
2D 01 - Appears as an empty tile. Acts like water.
C8 01 - Appears as an empty tile. Kills you when you step on it.

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:59 pm

Heres some!

B2 02: After a long long while ending brake tiles starting with type 1.

B3 02: After a long long while ending brake tiles starting with type 2.

B1 02: After a long long while ending brake tiles starting with type 3.

B0 05: Very rarely emerged spikes.

B0 07: Unfiring movable canons.

B4 00: Walkable darkness.