New Level (Adv) - The Black Pyramids (pt4: Black Pyramids)

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New Level (Adv) - The Black Pyramids (pt4: Black Pyramids)

Post by LEMARQUIS » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:56 am

Today I just have quite a journey.. I had a motorcycle accident and crashed my bike when a car suddenly decided to change lane in front of me. I ended up with minor injuries laying on the pavement while the driver drove away. My bike wasn't so lucky. That was my day... Still I had planned to release this level today so here it is...

This is part 4, the last of the 4 part mini-series called : "The Black Pyramids". I will release part 2 and 3 when completed...

I have been working on this level for over 2 months. I was trying to come out with something different.. new tricks (for example: try to collect the coin near Qookie! ;))... I might have succeeded... you'll be the judge of that!

I think it's a fun level, quite hard but different in a way... I had to look at all the possibilities and eliminate the unwanted one. I hope I didn't miss any. To save yourself time, really look at the full picture, the possibilities and plan on what needs to be done... especially with the flames... You'll also need to dodge few UFOs. One advice: take your time and think every move before u do it. The 3 characters really have to work together on this one.

Everything is pretty much in the open... nothing hidden (What's inside the pyramids is revealed in a different way... at the suggestion of Marinus. Thx)

One last note: Their is a way to solve it every time. The solution has nothing to do with luck!

Good Luck to all!

Again...Many thanks to Marinus especially for testing the reflector puzzle...

I'm just happy to be alive ;)

LeMarquis

Hopefully you'll have as much fun solving it as I had creating it.
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:58 am

Revised Models B
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:59 am

Revised Models C
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Post by ppahr » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:56 pm

GLAD TO SEE YOUR BETTER I ALWAYS ENJOY THE TROUBLE YOUR LEVELS GIVE ME.PAT
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Post by Amnon » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 am

Untimed-mode done: not half as difficult as the first in this series, but now the challenge is to get it all done within the time-limit!

I did not use all prisms.
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Post by Amnon » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:28 am

Made it, with 1:07 minutes left. But really, I think the time-limit should be more generous.

Thanks!!!
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:15 am

The previous version of this level had way too many loopholes... please redownload everything (Level, Models, Textures) and enjoy this final revised level!!!

Many thanks to Amnon for testing this very intricate level during the past week... Amnon is a true genius at solving puzzles... :shock: :evil: :twisted: :x :? :wink: :D
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Post by Amnon » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:44 am

Well, it was hard work in the last few days: every time I would come up with a solution and LEMAQUIS would tell me, "no, that isn't it" and tighten the screws further.

Finally, I have one solution and he has another - mine is NOT the intended way, and I still cannot do it in timed-mode (perhaps just another 30 seconds would do...).

Here is my walkthru - THE WRONG WAY...
1. Loof makes chomper kill the flame LEFT of the white timer and enters reflector area.
2. Stinky stands 1D3L of the trampoline.
3. Loof comes down to blue button.
4. Qookie goes U-R-U-R (hiding the bad-red-guy).
5. Once prism is blown, Stinky takes the reflector inside the right pyramid to the point 3U1R from the trampoline.
6. Stinky stands in the line of fire so that UFO destroys the 3 wooden boxes, escapes the fire and goes anywhere between the two ghost-Peegues.
7. Qookie moves Down-Left.
8. Loof moves down (on break-tile).
9. Qookie moves 2R-3L-U.
10. Loof goes around: D-3L-2U-R, placing a reflector on blue button and pushing another, then hides in hidden gate.
11. Once the UFO shoots the left ghost-Peegue, Stinky moves the right reflector 1U-1L of the trampoline (this will protect him from the bad-red-guy no matter what Qookie does), then hides in the right pyramid.
12. Qookie moves into the white timer-area, so when the UFO comes around again,
it destroys the remaining ghost-Peegue, then shoot down the barrel, then Qookie enters the reflector room.
13. Qookie goes on the curve, pushing a reflector Up, then another reflector 2L.
14. Qookie destroys both UFOs: one by taking the top coin and quickly escaping Down-Right, the other by playing with the cyan button.
15. The moment the first baby UFO extinguishes the flame on the red button, Loof runs Around (Up, Left, Down) through the yellow TP.
16. Make sure no character stands in the line of UFOs until the battlefield clears (otherwise, UFOs might kill each other)
17. Stinky stands above the column where the UFO moves up-and-down, drawing the fire to himself.
18. Loof enters (watch the timing) through the yellow TP and takes left coin.
19. Qookie pushes the reflector just before the UFO's column, at the right
moment, Loof moves Right-Down onto the red button and Qookie closes the reflector above him and quickly moves out of the way.
20. Qookie arranges a reflector, so that the fire from the UFO hits the wooden box, then carefully takes the coin off the pink button and pushes another reflector on top of it. Note: in all of Qookie's maneouvres, care must be taken about the position of the bad-red-guy, so he does not accidentally kill himself - extra moving around may be needed.
21. Qookie pushes the reflector, using the hidden gate and avoiding the fire, above the blue button with the reflector on it, so that the fire hits the reflector on the conveyor-button.
22. Stinky arranges the reflectors: the left on the yellow button, the right above the trampoline, then stands above it, so that the UFO fire opens the left pyramid (take coin inside).
23. Qookie pushes the reflector above Loof Left, out of the way: Qookie and Loof together push the reflector (2 above the blue button) Up.
24. Loof pushes the box and goes with it through the yellow TP.
25. Qookie destroys the UFO, then positions the bad-red-dude on the bottom square between the 2 flames.
26. Stinky pushes boulder up, then down, collects coins from middle pyramid and around it, then goes to the back and pushes the boulder right, above the bad-red-guy. Qookie goes down, activating the bad-red-guy.
27. Stinky fills the remaining water-hole with a reflector and the boulder, then collects all remaining coins.
28. All 3 cooperate, bringing the wooden box into the water-hole next to the conveyor button.
29. All 3 cooperate, bringing a reflector on top of the conveyor button.
30. All exit.
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Post by Amnon » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:59 am

I just made it in timed-mode (my way), even had 49 seconds left, but really the time-limit should be much more (or there should be more time-bonuses around).

Thanks!!!
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Post by Marinus » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:24 pm

I enjoyed playing and testing only the small area with the 4 reflectors, but I even couldn't solve that small part completely on my own.

Then the big level itself, where came still more complicated puzzles, was just too hard for me to even get a start. Testing Mark's an Kiki's level is usually just what I can do, but I have to admit, to test your levels Marquis, you better have Amnon to test them. :)
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:35 pm

Here's the intended way... which is totally different than Amnon's way ;)

I have tried to describe it step by step so it's easier to follow...

1) Loof: Move to the tile that is diagonally between the water tile & the yellow button.
2) Stinky: Push \ Reflector UU when UFO passes by, then wait LLD. dodge UFO & enter right small pyramid LUURRLDD (collects the 2 bonus coins). keeping the UFO on the left side, push \reflector DDD (stop before tramp) then hide right of reflector. Push \reflector L & jump D on tramp.
3) Loof: wait till UFO is diagonally down/right from him then step R, wait for UFO to turn L on yellow button then quickly runs to hide inside the left side of the right pyramid (UFO destroys the left shadow then comes back U and travels around the pyramids clockwise).
4) Stinky: Jump U on tramp, stand below Ramses statue until the prism is blown up by UFO, then hides inside the right side of the right pyramid.
Loof: wait for UFO to pass and turn D, then runs L to stand in line with the yellow bird. The chomper will block the returning UFO. The UFO turns D & destroys itself on the West flame.
5) Qookie move to bottom right corner.
6) Stinky: push \reflector RR & gets out of the way.
7) Loof: runs R and jumps D on tramp, dodges the chomper and leads him to kill the North flame then steps on pale blue timer, push barrel D, enter the 4 reflector's room, pushes the top \reflector L.
8 ) Stinky: push the \reflector Left to the tile that is diagonally between the water tile & the yellow button then jump D on tramp, step on pale blue timer & stand L of the dark blue gate.
9) Loof: step D on dark blue button.
10) Stinky push \reflector R.
11) Loof: step D on breaktile.
12) Stinky: push \reflector R on the ice (1 reflector on the dark blue button & 3 reflectors in 1)
13) Loof: push / reflector U on ice (stand on dark blue button)
14) Stinky: push /reflector DDD then LL then stand 1 tile right of the 3 reflectors in 1.
15) Loof: walk U on ice then all the way U.
16) Stinky pushes \reflector L (stands inside 2 reflectors in X)
17) Loof: push \reflector all the way D then stand on the dark blue button.
18 ) Stinky: collect the coin below the UFO then quickly dodge R & D then stand right of the X reflectors (UFO dies). Use the shift key to see the mothership creating 2 new baby UFOs (one L & 1 U). When the UFO shoots at Stinky, release the shift key and move to stand 1 tile above the x reflectors. as soon as you see the fire bullet on the left side of the screen, push the /reflector D (Loof will stand inside the other \reflector, you should have an eternal fire going clockwise!!!) then step R (The L
baby UFO has also put out the flame on the red button). Step D when the fire bullet hits the bottom left \reflector & follow L on breaktile then collect coin on yellow TP. RUN L & push boulder U to avoid the fire from the angry red dude. Collect the 4 coins inside the middle pyramid, push the boulder D then step R on breaktile collect coin behind Ramses, step U on breaktile then enter the right pyramid (watch out for the UFO!). Run, push boulder R & quickly step on green button to avoid fire from the angry red dude. Quickly switch to Qookie.
19)
"New Kool Glitch" Qookie: When the boulder hits the red dude, runs all the way left. (The red dude is inside the boulder :)). Run quickly UUDD, wait for the boulder to come back then collect the coin. Tramp D, step on the pale blue timer and return to the reflector room by stepping on the top left breaktile then stand R of the top R \reflector.
20) Stinky: tramp D, step on the pale blue timer then stand on the red button.
21) Qookie: when the fire bullet has hit the top R \reflector, push that same \reflector L. (2 reflectors will move L & the fire bullet destroys the wooden box. The box generator create 2 boxes, the one on the left is destroyed by the flame). Collect coin on pink button, then cover it with the \reflector by walking on the breaktile. Push top R \reflector D and push /reflector L against green gate.
22) Stinky: push wooden box D and follow on yellow TP, comes back through TP & pushes wooden box U in front of flame then return inside the yellow TP to step on green button.
23) Qookie: push /reflector RR, pass through fake wall & stand behind the R gold king tut statue.
24)Stinky: Tramp D, steps on blue timer, push barrel D & wooden box on fire then collect coin.
25) Qookie: Push barrel L in water, go through yellow TP & stand on green button.
26) Stinky: push /reflector few tiles to the L (stop before the crossroad!)
27) Qookie: walks back through yellow TP and with the help of Stinky bring that /reflector through the yellow TP then goes inside the L pyramid.
28 ) Stinky: walk through the yellow TP & push that /reflector in front of the door.
29) Qookie: move the /reflector DLL then stands on the top R corner inside the sarcophagus room.
30) Stinky: goes around the pyramids counter-clockwise and push the reflector all the way R then go stand 1 tile below the yellow gate.
31) Qookie: push the reflector DDL, push the boulder U then L.
32) Stinky: push the boulder R into the water.
33) Qookie: push the /reflector all the way L & U.
34) Stinky: push the /reflector into the water to complete the bridge then collect the coin.
35) Qookie: push the \reflector that was in the sarcophagus room all the way L & U then L on the ice. (both \ reflectors are in one tile!). step R.
36) Loof: step L then D on breaktile, push \reflector R on dark blue button then step on white button
37)
"New Kool Glitch" Qookie: stand in line of fire then dodge R to destroy barrels then collect coin inside L pyramid. (fire goes through 2 same side reflectors on one tile!!!). Tramp D and push one of the \reflectors U on ice & follow through then tramp D & enter dark blue TP.
38 ) Stinky: push \reflector D, push it D on tramp then step L.
39) Qookie: walk through dark blue TP, push \reflector on tramp then back in the dark blue TP.
40) Stinky: push the \reflector R then enter the yellow TP and turn left at the crossroad.
41) Qookie: enters the dark blue TP & tramp U then push the reflector to the right of Stinky (in the middle of the crossroad) then step D to be in line of fire with the prism.
42) Loof: step off the white button to destroy the UFO.
(the mothership creates 4 new baby UFOs. One destroys the barrel on the left side). After the UFO goes by, dodge the UFO & hide in the fake wall.
43) Stinky: push the \reflector R in front of the pale blue gate then collect the coin & the clock in the snake room.
44) Qookie: enter the yellow TP, tramp D, step on the pale blue timer & push the reflector DD.
45) Loof: push the \reflector on the conveyor button.
46) exit the 3 characters.
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:00 am

Did anyone besides Amnon tried to solve it or even follow one of the 2 walkthrough? I wish Mark would try this and comment ;) Amnon's way uses no gitch which is very kool! I think both solutions could be combined into one taking the best out of the 2. For example, Amnon's beginning is wiser than mine. I added the blue gates in the pyramids later and didn't think of exiting the UFO that way which is safer and easier to do lol
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Post by Technos72 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:13 am

I feel sorry for your you in the accident. glad you're okay! I guess that means I'll never take a motorcycle. Not in a million years! :lol:

I'll try the level when Parts 2 and 3 come up. I want to follow the storyline perfectly
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Post by bob roest » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:45 pm

Do I have a different level? :?

I tried following your directions but it doesn't work, you talk about Stinky keeping the UFO on the left side but there's a blue gate in the way. You mention Loof stepping right onto a breaktile but there isn't one. And yes, I downloaded the revised level. Beats me, I must be doing something wrong.
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am

When stinky enters the right pyramid and releases the UFO, he gets behind the refllector and wait until the UFO is on the left side to push it all the way down. Then push that same reflector 1 tile left which forces the UFO to stop turning in a small circle and go around the 3 pyramids clockwise. That s what I meant :)

Regarding Loof's comment, you are right, there are no breaktile there, "just step right". It was from a previous version and I forgot to remove it. I fixed it in the walkthrough. Thx

Please let me know if you run into more problems...
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Post by LEMARQUIS » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:19 am

Hi everybody,

My previous laptop was too bright and the level ended up too dark for most user's laptop.. I just brightened the textures and the models a bit...

For the ones who liked the level, please redownload MarquisT26, MarquisM26B and MarquisM26C

Please stay post for Part 2 of the Saga of The Black Pyramids (The jungle) ... It's a Mega level!!! Coming soon.

Thx
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