New level WL-Denmark

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:04 pm

This is my third level - it's supposed to be a map over Denmark, but I had to leave out all the smaller islands (it was just to difficult with only squares......)

I've been working on this level since everyone else posted their WL-levels

and even though I'm still not completely satisfied, I don't think I can do better

So here it is - I think it's easy, but please let me know what you think

Bina

majic1 · Post by **majic1** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:38 pm

I haven't finished this yet; I've played it a little, and I'm still trying to figure out the order of things. Looks VERY interesting!

Dianna · Post by **Dianna** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:51 pm

Having never been to Denmark, I didn't realize how beautiful it is! So green and lovely, BINA. Like a typical tourist, I've run around exploring and reading all the signs, but haven't figured out how to even begin to solve this level yet. Looks like it's going to be a lot of fun!

Bearsland · Post by **Bearsland** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:41 am

Nice level Salin.

It looks like a nice easy stroll at first, yet at the same time looks very complicated. It's neither.

I know that sounds weird, but I know what I mean.

I think your levels are really great; all of them have been top notch.

~Bear

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:02 am

Bearsland wrote:Nice level Salin.

~Bear

Thanks Bear, but I'm not Salin..........

Thanks majic and Dianna - please let me know if you need any help!

Bina.

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:32 am

Nice map of Denmark, bina

Jeg kan godt lige ditt land, jeg elsker danmark faktisk!!!
Still trying to figure out the route though....

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:11 am

Salin wrote:Jeg kan godt lige ditt land, jeg elsker danmark faktisk!!!

Tak Salin, det var pæne ord

- jeg er også MEGET vild med Norge!!! Jeg må sige, at der er smukkere end i Danmark - i har jo De Norske Fjelde og den mest utrolige natur. At sejle ind til Oslo Fjord, er noget af det mest utrolige, jeg har oplevet!!!!

Let me know if you need help!

Bina.

majic1 · Post by **majic1** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:45 pm

BINA wrote:
Salin wrote:Jeg kan godt lige ditt land, jeg elsker danmark faktisk!!!

Tak Salin, det var pæne ord - jeg er også MEGET vild med Norge!!! Jeg må sige, at der er smukkere end i Danmark - i har jo De Norske Fjelde og den mest utrolige natur. At sejle ind til Oslo Fjord, er noget af det mest utrolige, jeg har oplevet!!!!

HEY! That's not fair!! (Are you talking about us again?)

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:42 pm

Sorry Majic - and everyone else!

Salin was just telling me, that she liked Denmark - and I wrote her back, that I thought Norway is a very beatiful country, because of its spectacular natur - it really is breathtaking!

Anyway, I'm not even sure she understood it

'cause I wrote in danish!!!!

(Now you know how it feels; For an example; I have NO idea of wat a portapotty is

)

Bina.

Bearsland · Post by **Bearsland** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:54 pm

BINA wrote:Thanks Bear, but I'm not Salin..........

Oh Bina, I am so sorry.

Only defence I have is that I was Sunday's 'Dunce of the Day'. It's a poor defence, but it's all I have.

I made a few corkers yesterday; this is just one of them. I called Jersey 'Dianna' or was that calling Dianna 'Jersey'?? Not sure... but you get the picture.

It's still a great level.

~Bear

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:52 pm

Don't worry Bear - this could happen to us all - I think I once wrote "welcome to wonderland", to someone, who had been here longer than I

I was just wondering if your comment was on this level......

Bina.

popo · Post by **popo** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:49 am

BINA wrote:(Now you know how it feels; For an example; I have NO idea of wat a portapotty is )

It's a chemical toilet that you take with you when you're camping

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:03 am

Yes Bina, I understand danish, very well actually as I used to visit a friend when she lived near ålborg...

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:50 am

popo wrote: It's a chemical toilet that you take with you when you're camping

OOOOH - Thanks popo!

(I'm going to demand, that they pay me back my fee, at the college I went to in Cardiff - they were supposed to teach me english

)

Salin, I understand norweigian too - I've been working as a receptionist in danish hotels for some years and we have a lot of norweigian tourists in DK.............
BTW Ålborg is a nice town - great night live too

Bina.

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:17 pm

I KNOW!!!!!!!!! Went to jomfruanegade once, WOW, bought a hole meter with beer!
No wonder your english is good though, mine is pretty poor I`m afraid....

SharonM · Post by **SharonM** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:23 pm

I'm impressed with you both! I don't know a word of either of your languages and you seem to know at least three!

majic1 · Post by **majic1** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:48 pm

SharonM wrote:I'm impressed with you both! I don't know a word of either of your languages and you seem to know at least three!

Yes, Sharon - I agree! Not to mention their English is a lot better than several people I know here in the U.S.!!!!

Salin · Post by **Salin** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:48 pm

Thank you both magic and Sharon

Dianna · Post by **Dianna** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:32 pm

Well, Bina, it's pretty hard to keep up with English even if you live in the US! Words that aren't words become words just because people say them enough, words have multiple meanings -- for instance, in the US porta-potty might be a chemical toilet you take camping, or it might be one of those portable toilets that are hauled around to construction sites (also called johhny-on-the-jobs) or it might be one of those commodes that you set by the bedside for invalids. In the US potties are pretty much always toilets, tho. I understand that in the UK "potty" can mean irrational, so I guess this phrase could also mean a walkin-around-wacko. Being an American, I have trouble with some English words -- like when M.A.D. referred to her weight in "stones." I had no idea what a stone was and didn't know if she resembled a butterball or a stick!

I would be surprised if any American could speak a word of Danish unless the person came here from Denmark. I know very few Americans who can speak more than one language. Even in Southern California, where so much of the population is Spanish-speaking, the Americans pretty much leave it up to the Spanish-speaking folks to learn English. This leads to some interesting communication problems, particularly in the healthcare world when a doctor needs to communicate with a Spanish-speaking patient and the only person available to translate is the janitor. I've been at the bedside for many of these conversations and I've often wondered how much of the doctor's message was actually getting thru to the patient!

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:08 pm

Thank you Sharon and Majic, for your kind words

- I wouldn't really expect anyone outside DK to have an intrest in learning danish...!

Danish, swedish and norweigian languages are very close to eachother - not like dialects, but we can comunicate somehow, most of the time. I've had to learn to understand their languages, but I can not speak them. I've met many swedish and norweigian tourist in my work and some actually prefers to comunicate in english....

Dianna, thank you for taking time to explain about "pottys" etc - It can really be a mystery for a foreigner! I do have problems with terms and expressions, that are not mentioned in the schoolbooks and sometimes I can't follow the debats going on, on this forum. When I worked in a hotel in St. Andrews, I noticed that my scottish collegs had difficulties understanding the american tourists, wich surpriced me at the time. (I think you have different words to describe the cooking of an eg for an example?)

In DK they teach us british-english in the schools for 6 or 7 years I think, but I must admit, that most of the credit for my english skills goes to television! In danish tv (and in Norway and Sweeden) all the american and brittish moovies and talkshows etc, are shown with subtitels. As you can imagine, that is a huge advantage!
Anyway, none of you should feel bad about expecting everyone else to speak english - I honestly think it's very understandabel and I do not mind at all, comunicating in english when I'm abroad!

Enough of that - has ANYBODY played this level and finished it (exept from Bear, ofcourse

) Please let me know if it's to easy, to hard, to stupid or what ever - be honest, I won't be upset, I just need a feedback so that I can get started on my 4th level (you know it takes me two months, so there is no time to waist!!!!!)

Bina

Dianna · Post by **Dianna** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:13 pm

Hi, BINA. Still working on this one. Those electric tiles are tough, but finally got past those and got caught by beasts lurking in the shrubs, then finally learned my way around the beasts only to be trampled by a Coilie! Have to go run some errands, but I'll get back to this one later. I can only imagine what's coming up next!

Jersey · Post by **Jersey** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:02 am

Anyway, none of you should feel bad about expecting everyone else to speak english - I honestly think it's very understandabel and I do not mind at all, comunicating in english when I'm abroad!

No wonder your english is good though, mine is pretty poor I`m afraid....

I think, that even though neither of you had any extensive training in the English language, you are both remarkably well written, if not spoken.

English is a very tricky language to speak, read and write. Especially with the amount of slang words we have adopted as mainstream.

Like Dianna using the port-a-potty as an example. The proper term is "portable toilet", but look how many names it has!

Even in the same country, there are so many accents that make it even more difficult to understand the English language.

Our Wonderland friends from the UK can testify to a big difference in accents. BigZips, M.A.D and Old Pete might live within a hundred mile radius of each other, but will sound very different.

Same holds true for our US Wonderland buddies, from state to state, their accents differ too. The players from California, New York, Vermont, Pennsilvania, Arizona, Illinois, West Virginia, all sound different from each other.

Can't forget the Aussies either, eh mate! Their accents are vastly different, and their slang is outta this world!

And the Scots and Irish accents...wow!

Can you just imagine a Wonderland Convention??? It would be an international mish-mash of accents!

We'd have to have translators for everyone!

I'll shut up now...no, really.

I'm off to play Bina's level, and rest my voice for the next lecture.

*You think this was bad, you should have seen what I edited out!*

Jersey · Post by **Jersey** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:59 am

Great Level! Like the map too!

AND, I actually shut up long enough to play it!

'Course, it took Stinky several tries, and got blasted each time

when Loof wasn't getting zapped himself

Loved it Bina! Keep up the good work!

ol'gramma · Post by **ol'gramma** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:29 am

Hi Bina,
I am enjoying playing your level very much and it is most attractive. I haven't had time to finish it, but I will.

I also enjoyed the discussion here about languages. It is most impressive that you and Inger can not only speak, but write English so well. You put us Americans to shame for not demanding that our students know how to speak and write proper English, our main language, correctly before they graduate. Street slang is not English and will get you no where in a career.

ol'gramma
Carolyn

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:51 pm

Dianna wrote:Those electric tiles are tough, but finally got past those and got caught by beasts lurking in the shrubs, then finally learned my way around the beasts only to be trampled by a Coilie!

Thanks Dianna, but I think your comment are ment for another level..... I hate electric tiles and I haven't used them in any of my levels yet....

(Strange..........This is the second time, this has happend to me with this level

)

Bina.

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:23 pm

Thank you Jersey, as a foreigner, I find your observations very interesting! The slang words are deffenitely the hardest to understand for an "outsider", but even everyday-terms can be a challenge; I read in your X-treme level discussions, that some one said that you were "under the weather"!!!! If I had'nt read all the other posts, I would've never guessed, that they ment you were suffering from a cold!!!!!
Beeing a part of this forum, has actually been a good learning-experince for me and has given me, a chance to bruch of my english

And by the way; I can't really say, that I haven't had any extensive training in the English language - I went to college in Wales at 17 and I've spend 4 months in Scotland, working on a hotel as a part of my education.... (I actually speak english with a scottish accent, I'm told

) - Inger must be a natural

Ol'gramma, thank you for your kind words

I'm not sure I know what you mean, about some of the american students - Don't they learn english proper? It shouldn't be as hard for them, as it is to the europeans...? But then again, bear in mind, that we only learn "proper English" in our schools and are under no influence of street slang etc (that can be a problem, when we goes "out into the world" and can't understand anything, that is said to us though

)

Also, thank you both, for your comment on my level

Bina.

ol'gramma · Post by **ol'gramma** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:04 pm

Bina wrote:

I'm not sure I know what you mean, about some of the american students - Don't they learn english proper? It shouldn't be as hard for them, as it is to the europeans...?

They are taught proper English, but because they speak it using street slang, it is a boring subject. and they squeek by, thinking it is so unimportant. The school systems vary in different areas of the country as well, and some do not demand or inspire excellence. But, the first inspiration for excellence should start at home.

ol'gramma
Carolyn

BINA · Post by **BINA** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:39 pm

Thanks ol'gramma, I think I know eccactly what you mean now - I think it's the same problem all over the world though.... I was always tought to speak clear and without "snapping off" the words (Can you say that in english?:oops: I mean pronouncing every word correct) and I think, that it is a very important thing, to teach your children.
As a parent, I feel obligated, to teach my daughter to behave well and to speak proper, because I think it is neccesary, in order for her to feel confident! I want her, to be abel to fit in where ever she may choose. I think the world will treat her more gentel, if she knows how to "behave" and that she will have more career oputunities to choose from. After all, is'nt that what we all wants for our children?

Bina.

SharonM · Post by **SharonM** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:55 pm

Yes it is BINA. Unfortunately, peer pressure and media influence go a long way to negate our positive influences.

Now, to get back to your level. I finally got to play it and I really liked it.

It took me a while to figure out what to do with the boulders near Stinky, but I eventually got it.

I also alt-xed it and was impressed with your design. This was a very well done level. Thanks for submitting it. I can't wait to see what you have in store for us next.

Jersey · Post by **Jersey** » Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:38 am

And by the way; I can't really say, that I haven't had any extensive training in the English language - I went to college in Wales at 17 and I've spend 4 months in Scotland, working on a hotel as a part of my education....

I actually remember reading somewhere that you had spent some time in the University of Cardiff, but it must have slipped my mind. Sorry!

It must have been quite challenging going to university in another country, I'm not that brave - it took me 10 years to get up the nerve to go back to school, and another 6 months to sign up for classes, and that was in my own country!

And, you've worked in the tourist industry too, so your language skills must have been thoroughly tested. I have a hard enough time talking in my own language - we call it "verbal diarrhea"

BTW - I forgot to mention it when I commented on your level (which is great by the way) that I've been to H.C. Andersen's home, and I've seen the statue of his famous Little Mermaid...'course it was dark, and very late at night, so our cab driver (a transplanted Englishman!) walked us down the path so we were safe. He didn't even leave the meter in the taxi running, in fact, he only charged us the equivilant of 20 dollars Canadian, and we must have spend an hour or more driving around with him to see the sights in Copenhagen! He was excited by the fact that my mother was a fellow countrywoman - she's from Coventry, England.

Out of our whole vacation, I enjoyed our Scandinavian tour the most. We arrived in Copenhagen, and before we caught the boat to Norway, we spent the day at LegoLand which was incredible seeing so much talent with such simple children's toys. Then, after arriving in Norway, we travelled up the fyords - INCREDIBLE scenery! The best part was the return train trip through the northern most part of Norway/Sweden when there was a huge herd of carribou that ran along side of the train!!!!!! The tundra in the north is just breathtaking!

I highly recommend Scandinavia as a tourist venue! My sister and mother were fortunate a few years ago to have a several hour stopover in Iceland when their plane ran into problems - I wish I could have been there, too. The photos they took were just beautiful.

Look!

I'm babbling again!

But it's just because I loved your country and it's neighbors soooooo much.