A Midnight Synergy update!

Qloof234 · Post by **Qloof234** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:18 am

You can't cater to the whole world of gamers by using one genre and completely eliminating another.

I absolutely love 2D Platformers, and seeing a Wonderland game in HD in said style would be my idea of a perfect 2D puzzle. Some people don't like platformers, and I'm okay with that, as long as it doesn't degenerate into just complaints without playing the game beforehand.

Also 2.5D is the best way to go as well - It has width, depth, and length, but still plays like the platformers of old (1980 - 1999).

Muzozavr · Post by **Muzozavr** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:07 am

Wonderland games are 2D because they take place on a single surface. WA is also 2D.
Even games like Doom are only 3D because they have lifts and other stuff that involves height. They're kinda underused, though, so for a lot of these games the "2.5D" term is justified -- it's 2D, except for specific moments.

Games that TRULY use the third dimension A LOT are usually games where you control a spaceship, a hovercraft, or an airplane or something else that flies. Or if you're in zero gravity. Then you have six degrees of freedom.

Or Portal. Because in that game, portals can be indeed placed on walls and ceilings and floors, therefore all three dimensions are used.

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:14 pm

Not in a very narrow room.

Blink · Post by **Blink** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:02 pm

You do have a point, QLoof234, and now that I see it, a platform game would be a step foward, in a whole different sense.

HumanGamer · Post by **HumanGamer** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:08 pm

I'm new to the forums that's why you probably havent seen me around...

Anyway, I like the idea for return to return to wonderland
1.I think it should have a 2d editor(because it's easier)
2.gameplay should be just like wonderland secret worlds. but with updated graphics!
3.all the elements from Return to wonderland platinum!
but with multi floor levels.
4.It does not play with the mouse(it's alot harder with the mouse especially if your mouse isnt very good like mine).
5.being able to make your own elements somehow like with an ingame code window to make elements(for advanced users)
6.download levels from the community with an ingame custom level list from the internet!

that's all i can think of for now!
i hope you like my idea!

by the way what do you think of this patrick?

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:24 pm

cooldudepoke wrote:I'm new to the forums that's why you probably havent seen me around...

Anyway, I like the idea for return to return to wonderland
1.I think it should have a 2d editor(because it's easier)
2.gameplay should be just like wonderland secret worlds. but with updated graphics!
3.all the elements from Return to wonderland platinum!
but with multi floor levels.
4.It does not play with the mouse(it's alot harder with the mouse especially if your mouse isnt very good like mine).
5.being able to make your own elements somehow like with an ingame code window to make elements(for advanced users)
6.download levels from the community with an ingame custom level list from the internet!

that's all i can think of for now!
i hope you like my idea!

by the way what do you think of this patrick?

I'm not patrick, but I agree with some of this.
This is what I think.
You should have these things added:
Everything that was going to be in there anyway.
A way to connect to the forum itself, where downloaded levels would be automatically placed into the game.
A retro mode where you can play using RTW's graphics.
An in-game editor just like in RTW.
And The ability to play WA custom levels.
Tell me what you think!

HumanGamer · Post by **HumanGamer** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:34 pm

I'm not patrick, but I agree with some of this.
This is what I think.
You should have these things added:
Everything that was going to be in there anyway.
A way to connect to the forum itself, where downloaded levels would be automatically placed into the game.
A retro mode where you can play using RTW's graphics.
An in-game editor just like in RTW.
And The ability to play WA custom levels.
Tell me what you think!

I think your ideas are great! and should be placed into the final game!

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:35 pm

Thank You!

Kabooms Rock · Post by **Kabooms Rock** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:30 pm

ideas for wa 3:
the only thing i want for wa 3 is a editor with hub abilitys and to be able to push boxs.
ideas for return to return to wonder land:
all of the above

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:21 pm

Kabooms Rock wrote:the only thing i want for wa 3 is a editor with hub abilitys

We already have that with cbloopy's wops and hacked editor and stuff.

Kabooms Rock wrote:and to be able to push boxs.

That wouldn't exactly be possible. The water pits in the WA series vary in depth, and the boxes may not fit and fill it in right.

Technos72 · Post by **Technos72** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:32 pm

Wonderland Adventures 3 - PLEEEASE make this one! I am waiting for it! I even want to know what the indigo magic does!

RTRTW - the ideas for this game are okay. I prefer WA 3 better

2d Wonderland - It's not really puzzling with platformers for me. But It can take the shortest time to produce since its 2D.

But still, please make WA3 so that I can make my hub game that includes the new elements!

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:46 pm

Technos72 wrote:2d Wonderland - It's not really puzzling with platformers for me.

http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-ga ... index.html

Technos72 · Post by **Technos72** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:10 pm

Okay so it's going to be kinda simiar to Professor Fizzwizzl

Kabooms Rock · Post by **Kabooms Rock** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:31 pm

MyNameIsKooky wrote:
Kabooms Rock wrote:the only thing i want for wa 3 is a editor with hub abilitys
We already have that with cbloopy's wops and hacked editor and stuff.
I mean easer to use hub abilitys. I also use the hacked editor but making hubs could be simpler
Kabooms Rock wrote:and to be able to push boxs.
That wouldn't exactly be possible. The water pits in the WA series vary in depth, and the boxes may not fit and fill it in right. true...

my comments = RED

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:24 pm

I've been thinking about the new elements coming for RTRTW. Think of all the new puzzles that could be made!

I CAN('T) WAIT.

tyteen4a03 · Post by **tyteen4a03** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:47 am

MyNameIsKooky wrote:I've been thinking about the new elements coming for RTRTW. Think of all the new puzzles that could be made!

I CAN('T) WAIT.

http://pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7129

Reminds me of this topic.

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:08 pm

DEEMAN223344 · Post by **DEEMAN223344** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:33 pm

WA3 = WANT. WA: MOFI's ENDING WOULD BE MEANINGLESS WITHOUT IT.
RTRTW = WANT.
2D + Meh, ok. Sounds like fun.

SuperTron · Post by **SuperTron** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:19 pm

tyteen4a03 wrote:
Muzozavr wrote:
Oh, my god. The only thing that could be better than this is by keeping this idea and making it multiplayer, so that up to four people can play as either Stinky, Loof, Qookie and Peegue together.
Coop for puzzle solving or... DEATHMATCH!!!
Really, this could be interesting on properly designed levels. Since the players are less dumb than the monsters, it would be very hard to kill any of them actually.
How about making it a MMO

Good Idea

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:28 pm

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Thu May 20, 2010 8:08 pm

VirtLands · Post by **VirtLands** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:53 am

I agree, a 2D (or a 2½D) Wonderland game would be fun,
it could either be a side-scrolling platformer or it

could be an overhead view that runs North,South, East,West,...,
like in FlatLand /. http://www.flatlandthemovie.com/

Emerald141 · Post by **Emerald141** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:13 pm

billy bob · Post by **billy bob** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:21 pm

Emerald141 wrote:Any progress on starting, or has Wonderland come to an end?

If it has, then this would be the worst day of my life.

gameboy991 · Post by **gameboy991** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:00 am

SuperTron wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:
Muzozavr wrote:
Oh, my god. The only thing that could be better than this is by keeping this idea and making it multiplayer, so that up to four people can play as either Stinky, Loof, Qookie and Peegue together.
Coop for puzzle solving or... DEATHMATCH!!!
Really, this could be interesting on properly designed levels. Since the players are less dumb than the monsters, it would be very hard to kill any of them actually.
How about making it a MMO
Good Idea

If four people played at once as the entire gang, then wouldn't it get confusing? The last thing anyone would want is for someone to start to push a powder keg towards a teleporter...

...and someone else coming out of it. Everyone restarts.

As for an MMO, maybe there could be a hub with multiple areas where people can chat and either race to see who can finish a level first, or... dare I say... [size=0]work together[/size]

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:49 am

gameboy991 wrote:
SuperTron wrote:
tyteen4a03 wrote:
Muzozavr wrote:
Oh, my god. The only thing that could be better than this is by keeping this idea and making it multiplayer, so that up to four people can play as either Stinky, Loof, Qookie and Peegue together.
Coop for puzzle solving or... DEATHMATCH!!!
Really, this could be interesting on properly designed levels. Since the players are less dumb than the monsters, it would be very hard to kill any of them actually.
How about making it a MMO
Good Idea
If four people played at once as the entire gang, then wouldn't it get confusing? The last thing anyone would want is for someone to start to push a powder keg towards a teleporter...

...and someone else coming out of it. Everyone restarts.

As for an MMO, maybe there could be a hub with multiple areas where people can chat and either race to see who can finish a level first, or... dare I say... [size=0]work together[/size]

YOU EXIST.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:07 pm

...try to kill each other using the level? That would be senseless, but fun.

LittleZbot · Post by **LittleZbot** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:43 pm

Umm... What's a MMO?

Or IMO, for that matter.

MyNameIsKooky · Post by **MyNameIsKooky** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:39 pm

LittleZbot wrote:Umm... What's a MMO?

Or IMO, for that matter.

MMO = Massive Multiplayer Online. It usually refers to online multiplayer games.

IMO = In My Opinion

Nobody · Post by **Nobody** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:54 pm

Actually, gameboy said cooperate after dare I say, for reasons strictly between him and whoever told him cooperation in Wonderland was shocking.

Arena levels where Stinkers could fight would be fun though. Maybe the longer you last the bigger your reward?

For example,

1st Place-25 Coins and 1000 points.
2nd Place-10 coins and 500 points
3rd Place-100 points.

If there are only 3 people you get a free 100 points for trying, but 4 or more is where it gets tricky to earn stuff.

A Midnight Synergy update!

2D Wonderland